[THIN] Re: Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:28:33 -0700
Are you referring to the Wanscaler? The Netscaler is far from a one niche
device?
Joe
On 8/31/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
One niche device does not a competitor make. Cisco makes dozens of types
of devices.
JK
*Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
What do you mean? That Netscaler/CAG is not a competitor to Cisco? or it
is? The Netscaler/CAG competes directly with Cisco's inferor CSS line and
SSL VPN concentrator.
Joe
On 8/31/06, Schneider, Chad M <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From the Netscaler/CAG area…I would say so….
>
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> Behalf Of *Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:20 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco
>
> *Hmm..now Citrix is a competitor with Cisco??
> JK* *Microsoft declares war on Cisco
> From: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2163150/microsoft-declares-war-cisco
> *
> *Conflict to centre on the 'critical battleground' of the branch office
> *
> Robert Jaques, vnunet.com <http://www.vnunet.com/> 30 Aug 2006
> Microsoft <http://www.microsoft.com/>'s recent
alliance<http://www.vnunet.com/2162844>with Citrix
> Systems <http://www.citrix.com/> to develop wide area network (Wan)
> optimisation technology represents a declaration of war on Cisco in the
> "critical battleground" of the branch office,
Gartner<http://www.gartner.com/>has reported.
> According to the analyst firm, the Redmond giant's tie-up with thin
> client firm Citrix is the culmination of a "long-simmering rivalry" with
> Cisco, and has the potential to transform the Wan optimisation market.
> The comments come after Microsoft and Citrix announced an expansion of
> their established partnership that will result in a jointly developed and
> marketed Citrix-branded branch office box.
> Gartner said that this product is scheduled to ship in the second
> quarter of next year and will be based on Citrix's
WANScaler<http://www.citrix.com/English/PS2/products/product.asp?contentID=33886>product
line gained through its recent acquisition of Orbital
> Data <http://www.orbitaldata.com/>, and on Microsoft's Windows
Server<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/default.mspx>and Internet
> Security and Acceleration
Server<http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/default.mspx>
> .
> "Microsoft clearly considers Cisco a significant threat to its
> dominance in the enterprise software market, and views the branch office as
> a critical battleground for application and network architectures," stated a
> Gartner advisory.
> "Cisco and Microsoft have avoided direct competition until recently,
> but the merging of networking, security, storage and applications made this
> confrontation inevitable.
> "Microsoft is launching new networking capabilities within Vista and
> the 'Longhorn' version of Windows Server, and is pursuing partners in the
> voice arena, for example Nortel <http://www.nortel.com/>."
> The analyst firm also believes that there will now be much more
> conflict between Cisco and Microsoft, a battle it originally predicted in
> 1997.
> "Microsoft is building a team of networking vendors to compete with
> Cisco. Citrix brings credibility in branch office application delivery
> through its Presentation Server and NetScaler products," the Gartner report
> stated.
> "By adding Orbital Data, Citrix now has an end-to-end application
> delivery family that is broader than Cisco's.
> "With a rapidly expanding portfolio, good strategic partnering and
> software-centric channels, Citrix is a serious competitor and potential
> roadblock to Cisco's aspirations to control application delivery.
> "The future WANScaler appliance promises to provide Wan optimisation,
> content distribution, security and branch office services.
> "When combined with Microsoft's marketing might and strategic customer
> relationships, this product is likely to quickly appear on prospective
> customers' shortlists once it is released."
> Gartner believes that Microsoft's tie-up with Citrix will change the
> selling dynamic for Wan optimisation controllers, branch office boxes and,
> to a lesser degree, application delivery controllers.
> "Because Cisco will not be the default choice, we believe its influence
> is likely to weaken. In addition, sales cycles will are likely to lengthen,
> and smaller vendors will find selling tougher," Gartner stated.
> However, the analyst firm went on to predict that the Microsoft/Citrix
> partnership will face "some challenges" as the published product delivery
> date is "very aggressive".
> Given these concerns it advises firms to continue their existing
> business-critical Wan optimisation implementations because its estimates
> that the Microsoft/Citrix product is 18 months away.
>
> Jim Kenzig <web%20at%20kenzig.com>
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal
Services<https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=23AEC72D-4582-47DE-8516-85D400AD929A>
> Provision Networks VIP<http://www.provisionnetworks.com/vipprogram.aspx>
> CEO The Kenzig Group
> http://www.kenzig.com
> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
> Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com
>
>
>
<https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=23AEC72D-4582-47DE-8516-85D400AD929A>
>
>
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One niche device does not a competitor make. Cisco makes dozens of types of devices. JK
*Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
What do you mean? That Netscaler/CAG is not a competitor to Cisco? or it is? The Netscaler/CAG competes directly with Cisco's inferor CSS line and SSL VPN concentrator.
Joe
On 8/31/06, Schneider, Chad M <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From the Netscaler/CAG area…I would say so…. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:20 AM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco > > *Hmm..now Citrix is a competitor with Cisco?? > JK* *Microsoft declares war on Cisco > From: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2163150/microsoft-declares-war-cisco > * > *Conflict to centre on the 'critical battleground' of the branch office > * > Robert Jaques, vnunet.com <http://www.vnunet.com/> 30 Aug 2006 > Microsoft <http://www.microsoft.com/>'s recent alliance<http://www.vnunet.com/2162844>with Citrix > Systems <http://www.citrix.com/> to develop wide area network (Wan) > optimisation technology represents a declaration of war on Cisco in the > "critical battleground" of the branch office, Gartner<http://www.gartner.com/>has reported. > According to the analyst firm, the Redmond giant's tie-up with thin > client firm Citrix is the culmination of a "long-simmering rivalry" with > Cisco, and has the potential to transform the Wan optimisation market. > The comments come after Microsoft and Citrix announced an expansion of > their established partnership that will result in a jointly developed and > marketed Citrix-branded branch office box. > Gartner said that this product is scheduled to ship in the second > quarter of next year and will be based on Citrix's WANScaler<http://www.citrix.com/English/PS2/products/product.asp?contentID=33886>product line gained through its recent acquisition of Orbital > Data <http://www.orbitaldata.com/>, and on Microsoft's Windows Server<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/default.mspx>and Internet > Security and Acceleration Server<http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/default.mspx> > . > "Microsoft clearly considers Cisco a significant threat to its > dominance in the enterprise software market, and views the branch office as > a critical battleground for application and network architectures," stated a > Gartner advisory. > "Cisco and Microsoft have avoided direct competition until recently, > but the merging of networking, security, storage and applications made this > confrontation inevitable. > "Microsoft is launching new networking capabilities within Vista and > the 'Longhorn' version of Windows Server, and is pursuing partners in the > voice arena, for example Nortel <http://www.nortel.com/>." > The analyst firm also believes that there will now be much more > conflict between Cisco and Microsoft, a battle it originally predicted in > 1997. > "Microsoft is building a team of networking vendors to compete with > Cisco. Citrix brings credibility in branch office application delivery > through its Presentation Server and NetScaler products," the Gartner report > stated. > "By adding Orbital Data, Citrix now has an end-to-end application > delivery family that is broader than Cisco's. > "With a rapidly expanding portfolio, good strategic partnering and > software-centric channels, Citrix is a serious competitor and potential > roadblock to Cisco's aspirations to control application delivery. > "The future WANScaler appliance promises to provide Wan optimisation, > content distribution, security and branch office services. > "When combined with Microsoft's marketing might and strategic customer > relationships, this product is likely to quickly appear on prospective > customers' shortlists once it is released." > Gartner believes that Microsoft's tie-up with Citrix will change the > selling dynamic for Wan optimisation controllers, branch office boxes and, > to a lesser degree, application delivery controllers. > "Because Cisco will not be the default choice, we believe its influence > is likely to weaken. In addition, sales cycles will are likely to lengthen, > and smaller vendors will find selling tougher," Gartner stated. > However, the analyst firm went on to predict that the Microsoft/Citrix > partnership will face "some challenges" as the published product delivery > date is "very aggressive". > Given these concerns it advises firms to continue their existing > business-critical Wan optimisation implementations because its estimates > that the Microsoft/Citrix product is 18 months away. > > Jim Kenzig <web%20at%20kenzig.com> > Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services<https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=23AEC72D-4582-47DE-8516-85D400AD929A> > Provision Networks VIP<http://www.provisionnetworks.com/vipprogram.aspx> > CEO The Kenzig Group > http://www.kenzig.com > Blog: http://www.techblink.com > Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com > > > <https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=23AEC72D-4582-47DE-8516-85D400AD929A> > >
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