I am from Michigan and also attended that mini conference which I thought was done very good. I talked to the guy that hosted it (unfortunately forget his name) and he would hold more conferences if he could only find a site willing to host them. I was unable to help him in that category. If you know of a place that might be willing email off the list and I will pass the info on to our person that takes care of our licenses as I am sure they can get in touch with him. Eileen Crabtree Systems Administrator Guardian Industries Corp. 2300 Harmon Rd. Auburn Hills, MI 48326 (248) 340-2004 "Berger, Gunnar" <GBerger@xxxxxxxx To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> om> cc: Sent by: bcc: thin-bounce@freel Subject: [THIN] Re: An Independent iForum-like Conference? ists.org 04/14/2004 02:17 PM Please respond to thin What you need is a good old ice breaker. Three legged race, or the old = pass the fire game. :-) I have a question. If anyone is from the North East US we had some mini = Citrix conference happen a year ago that I attented at UofM I think. = Whatever happened to that group? Gunnar -----Original Message----- From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:12 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: An Independent iForum-like Conference? Well, since you asked... Here's what I've been thinking about this. First of all, I totally and 100% agree. I'd like to have a whole day dedicated to networking / BS / meet & greet. The problem is that geeks don't necessarily like to talk to each other without a proper introduction. I personally have been to several conferences where I've felt totally awkward at the opening parties because I didn't know anyone, and I didn't want to be like "uh, so where are YOU from?" So, I was thinking that we should take the approach that people take on blind dates. Everyone who wants to participate in that day (or maybe the whole conference or whatever) should fill out a profile. It should include the products you use, your areas of expertise, do you read the THIN list, as well as what your biggest problems are and/or the biggest challenges you've recently overcome. Then, we could somehow aggregate this and facilitate people finding each other to talk about their stuff. I mean in the future we can probably use RFID tags and some cell phone app so that your phone vibrates when a "match" is nearby, but for now, there's got to be some way to organize a group of a few hundred nerds at a party so that they can find other nerds to talk to. Maybe this is as simple as making a searchable list of bios for all attendees? I know some conferences organize lunch tables by "topic" also. Call me crazy! Brian Brian Madden brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +1.202.302.3657 Visit www.brianmadden.com for in-depth Citrix, Terminal Server, and server-based computing news and analysis, white papers, downloadable videos, and product reviews. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:50 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: An Independent iForum-like Conference? Brian, I think this a great idea including all the speakers/vendors/etc. that you mentioned. But one idea I would like to throw out is some type of user forum for technical exchange. Something like this list, but in person and allowing for greater depth than many want to provide for the list. I know we have opportunities to network and discuss "things" with others and with experts but there is typically a time sensitivity that is in force that affects any real serious discussion. Also, there are many Citrix users that you don't even get the opportunity to meet unless you find yourself in a situation like the Shula's dinner or just happen to overhear someone discussing something of interest with a Citrix Lab associate. Don't misunderstand, the sessions that were done by Citrix employees or co-hosted by Citrix and an user with a story to tell were "mostly" useful, but often they were not deep enough or detailed enough or technical enough (Doug Brown's session notwithstanding <g>!). I'm not sure what would work best but some kind of formalized forum for users to gather together and really get into the nitty-gritty about their environments to include perhaps specific details and tips/tricks/hints would seem to me to be beneficial. I too will make every attempt to attend a conference such as you are suggesting, though I would selfishly prefer it be held somewhere on the West Coast (closer to me <g>!). However, I have no problem traveling to Washington D.C. as it is one of the few places I have yet to actually visit and explore. There are many sites worth seeing and I would relish the opportunity to play the tourist there. Of course, after the break-outs <g>! I do hope you can pull this off and bring it together as I believe there will be a lot of value to us in it. Thanks! Rob 24 Hour Fitness, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:24 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] An Independent iForum-like Conference? Hi All, =3D20 At the THIN list dinner at Shula's at iForum last year, a bunch of us guys and gals sat around and talked about all sorts of things. =3D20 =3D20 One thing we discussed was that we felt that iForum was turning into an "industry event" as opposed to a good old fashioned tech conference. We discussed creating our own vendor-neutral server-based computing technical conference. =3D20 I've been busily working on this idea for several months now. I've talked to a lot of you offline about it, and to vendors, hotels, and management companies. I live in Washington DC, and we've even brought this idea to the Fairfax County Economic Development Authority. Fairfax county is the home of "Silicon Alley" which is the DC-area home to many huge tech companies. (They love the idea, BTW.) =3D20 So, here's what I'm thinking. I have a meeting with the FCEDA on Friday, and I'd like to get your opinions on stuff: =3D20 Independent Server-Based Computing Tech Conference, Washington DC, April 2005 =3D20 This is our event. We can talk about whatever we want. I talked to the TS product group at Microsoft, and they seemed interested. I think we could get some of the TS developers at this event. Also, we could talk about MetaFrame, New Moon, Jetro, HOB, DAT, etc, etc.. plus all the third-party tools. We could invite all the people from this LIST to speak, and we can get together online to vote on the agenda, polls, etc. =3D20 My idea is for this to be a technical event. I'd also like to make it much cheaper than iForum, maybe around $500 or so. =3D20 So, thoughts, ideas, suggestions? =3D20 Remember that I don't have a job, so I can basically spend all day working on putting this thing together. =3D20 Brian =3D20 Brian Madden brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +1.202.302.3657 Visit www.brianmadden.com <http://www.brianmadden.com> for in-depth Citrix, Terminal Server, and server-based computing news and analysis, white papers, downloadable videos, and product reviews. =3D20 ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? 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