[THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

Be honest, are you going to Deploy a new .0 product days after release with
no internal test first?   It doesn't matter how stable the product is, most
people wouldn't even think about it.  Most organizations have processes and
procedures for updates and upgrades, especially major revisions, which have
to be met first.  Companies such as Citrix are expecting this to case.  YOU
are their QA department.

 

As far iPad and AG 5.0, there are two pieces to this.  The AG5.0 component
and to be released CR 4.2 for iOS4.2.  The release cycle, approval, etc for
the iPad is different than that of AG.  In addition, the iPad app has an
additional requirement in that it has to go through Apple for approval and
distribution.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dan Dill
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:08 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

As an admin who deals with a lot of software products I'm going to have to
rant with Jim on this: I have to agree the quality of software that comes
out as a 'final' release from some companies (Citrix may or may not be on
that list) leaves a bit to be desired.

 

The line of 'it was just released so it shouldn't go into production' is at
least partially an excuse for the lack of QA and product management from
some of these large software companies.  Yes all environments are different
and they can't catch all the bugs, but also a lot of environments are the
same and there are some serious bugs often with major releases that makes me
wonder how they could even release something like that.

 

I understand that there has to be a balance between getting the features out
and having a stable release but it seems that some companies are drifting
more towards a 'get the crap out the door and fix it later mentality.'  Also
don't forget the fact that it's easy to spend less on QA and use the earlier
adopters to find your bugs for you.  Cost externalization.

 

If I shouldn't deploy 5.0 is 5.1 going to be the more stable release?
Maybe, maybe not.  5.2?  Do I have to read through the release notes in the
hopes of ascertaining this?

 

Blurring the lines of which release is stable and which isn't only makes
life more difficult for the people responsible for maintaining that
software.

 

 

Dan Dill 

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

To be fair, not all of Citrix products can be released at the same time. I'm
sure the iPad will work with AG 5 once the Citrix Receiver 4.2 is released.

 

Also, the 5.0 VPX was just released so people shouldn't be putting into a
production environment just yet.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:36 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

<Rant On>

You know it never ceases to amaze me with these companies nowadays. It isn't
just Citrix. 

 

Put out a new product but take away key features that people have been using
that they really need. (you know like actually working at all) 

 

The fact that it is Citrix's own products not working together is a real
shame.  I know software changes can break things but ...basic connectivity?
What happened to quality control?

 

Backwards compatibility is a necessity in this day and age and I am really
getting tired of companies forcing upgrades for the sake of adding just
plain functionality because they have a new client or OS that has a few more
bells and whistles. If you upgrade one component it breaks functionality and
you end up upgrading or having to update 3 more. 

And then try and find where it is buried in the documentation where it tells
you to do that is another story. It is madness. 

<Rant off> 

Job security I guess. 

Regards
Jim Kenzig 
 <http://www.kenzig.com/> http://www.kenzig.com

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Rota, Brian <brota@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Stay with version 4.6 for now 5.0 does not work.

My problem was the customer wanted to put it on vmware but 4.6 did not
support esx

Brian

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jason Benway
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:47 PM 


To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

I'm looking to do something similar. So what was Citrix solution? I thought
that's what the VPX was for, to have Ipad's, etc connecting to it?

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rota, Brian
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

Citrix is telling me it wont work and neither does IPADs with version 5 of
the cag.

Thanks for your help today.

Brian

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rota, Brian
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:05 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

I think you may be on to something.

Web Interface works with Windows but MACs are getting a ssl error so I am
going to try and redo the certs.

 

Brian

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:41 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

So the second one points to Certificate issues.  If we go that route, I am
assuming since your CAG is working with WI that it has the certificate
installed. Have you assured that the client device you are trying to connect
with has the cert on it?

If it is not google the keywords: install wi certificate on CAG 

 

For mobile android clients I had to use Firefox and save the certificate
from the site as a crt file and then I texted it to the devices so they
could click on it and install it.  

Jim Kenzig 

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Rota, Brian <brota@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Here is what I am seeing.

 

http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=277517
<http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=277517&tstart=15> &tstart=15

 

http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=276719
<http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=276719&tstart=15> &tstart=15

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:30 AM 


To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

Can you try the IP??
Jim Kenzig 

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Rota, Brian <brota@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jim,

Yes I have a separate site that is configured for the PNagent.

It is Web Interface 5.3 and the CAG 5.0 VPX

XenAPP 5 farm.

 

I am thinking the issue is the new way the cag redirects the url.

 

Brian

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Access Gateway 5.0 VPX PNAgent

 

So you already have created a separate new service site for the PNAgent in
the Access Managmenent console?  If not you must create the PNagent service.


 

What version of WI is it?  Scott McDonalds tip here in this thread got
connectivity to my WI PNagent up and working by just adding the 2 lines to
my web config file. http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1465934

I don't know if it fits your situation though. 

Jim Kenzig 

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Rota, Brian <brota@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello

I am trying to configure Cag 5.0 to access the services site with the online
plug in.

So far I am not able to access the site.

My web interface is configured to use the Web Interface for authentication
and works fine. 

Can anyone offer any help?

 

 

Thank you

Brian

 

 

 

 

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