[THIN] Re: A licensing question... I think.

It's the CAL that expires, not the device, so any expired CAL never
becomes "un-expired". A *valid* CAL can be reiussed if the issuee isn't
seen for a while, but temporary CAL's actually expire (become invalid)
so those never get un-expired.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Yuroff
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:14 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: A licensing question... I think.

Shouldn't the PDC issue a CAL for it's lifetime, but once the expiration
date arrives and that device hasn't been seen, return the CAL to the
pool to issue to another device?

Steve.

On Jan 5, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Landin, Mark wrote:

> The PDC issue is something different. My guess is that those were 
> temporary licenses that were issued in the past and expired after 
> their 90-day (or is it 120-day?) lifetime. Those are indeed TS CALs.
>
> What you are running into with your 10-user limit are the Windows OS 
> CAL's, which is caused by the way your Windows OS is licensed on that 
> particular server.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Yuroff
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:11 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: A licensing question... I think.
>
> It's "Per Seat" or "Per Server", and yes, it is sitting at per server,

> with 10 concurrent connections, so this matches up.
>
> Does this address why the PDC has is holding onto licenses that should

> have expired in 2005 and 2006, or am I mixing 2 issues here?
>
> Steve.
>
> On Jan 5, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Landin, Mark wrote:
>
>> I think what this means is that when your Windows 2000 server was 
>> built, somebody selected "Per Server" mode licensing, with 10 
>> connections, rather than "Per User" mode.
>>
>> I believe you can easily change this to "Per User" using the 
>> "Licensing"
>> applet in the Control Panel of the Windows 2000 server.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

>> Behalf Of Steve Yuroff
>> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:43 PM
>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [THIN] A licensing question... I think.
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Let me begin with a server description.  My organization has one 
>> Citrix
>> server- Windows 2000 SP4, MetaFrame 1.8.  According to Citrix 
>> Management
>> Console: Servers: <ServerName>: Licenses: MetaFrame
>> Connection: Properties, I have 15 Metaframe 1.8 for TSE with 
>> subscription.
>>
>> My problem is that it seems if we have 10 Citrix connections in use,
>> #11 won't be able to connect.  When they try, it just sticks at a 
>> splash screen, but no error is ever provided.  If we disconnect one 
>> user, one more can get on in his place.
>>
>> On the Citrix Server console, it will pop up with "License usage for 
>> a
>
>> product licensed in per server mode has exceeded the maximum number 
>> of
>
>> licenses purchased and will prohibit further licenses from being 
>> granted.  Consult the Application event log or License Manager from 
>> the Administrative Tools folder for more information."
>>
>> Here's my first point of confusion.  Administrative Tools does not 
>> contain anything by those names.  License manager on the citrix 
>> server
>
>> is blank (licensing is on our PDC).  Event viewer:
>> Application Log shows an entry that reads "no license available for 
>> user SYSTEM using product TermService 5.0"
>>
>> I'm guessing this means my CALs are used up.  So I look at Terminal 
>> Services Licensing on my PDC, pointed to my Citrix server.  It says 
>> I've issued all my per-device licenses.  However, when I look deeper,

>> I see many expiration dates in the past: in one pool of 20, there are
>> 3 2005 expiration dates, and 14 2006 expirations.
>>
>> Shouldn't these 17 CALs be available for current connections?  Is 
>> there something I need to do to make them available?
>> Am I even seeing the right problem?  I admit to being completely 
>> befuddled by MS licensing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve.
>>
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>> Hiebing
>> syuroff@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> 608.256.6357
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