No, it's the traditional, start this app blah blah blah, or You can use RDP files 9though if you store them centrally you are required to authenticate each time. Or you can get Claudia's portal for TS, that's pretty good solution if you just need to publish apps. Ron -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:02 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 Does RDP do published apps in 2003? -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:Roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:38 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 Not really. I mean looking at the sec audit requirements and what not, I am not sure you will get dinged. Lets assume you are a bank, and someone says: Ok we want 20 desktops accessed remotely. And the only argument you have for a Citrix implementation over straight RDP is one version of 128 bit encryption over another. I am not sure it would be enough. Now I am not saying that I don't think Citrix is a fit in all environments, I am just dealing with the single issue of two different protocol streams both at 128 bit encryption. Now the arguments can be made for Server certificates used with SSL, etc etc etc. Does that make the encryption itself stronger? not really, but it will ensure you know who you are talking to and the use of CSG will limit access points into the network in a multi-server environment, etc. I guess my point is, that for a small implementation, the argument of one over the other wont always win you the battle, it all comes back to money eventually. Ron -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:26 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 Depends, if you're a bank or have a need for maximum security that might be the only bullet point you need. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:Roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:55 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 When going into CSG ssl encryption Vs. the RDP encryption available arguments can be made for "ICA over SSL is more secure than 128 bit encrypted RDP", this is true, But again, its an argument to be made if you need another bullet point to add to a list of reasons you want to use to justify the additional cost of Citrix. If it is your only bullet point, it's a rather weak one right? -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:48 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: 2003 While both have encryption you can turn on, I would say with CSG your stream is more secure. Jeff Pitsch -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:35 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] 2003 Back to the 2003 RDP vs Citrix ICA debate. If accessing published apps or desktops across the WAN, isn't ICA more secure or I should say can't you make ICA more secure with Secure Gateway? Or is that not an accurate assessment? ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor RTO Software Do you know which applications are abusing your CPU and memory? 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