Please start sending your posts to texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Thank you, Ray. It would seem that the frequency of avi-meisters is very high at TexBirds. I really appreciate the info. Harlan On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Ray Porter wrote: > Please start sending your posts to texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Harlan, > > The female Melanerpes appears to be a Golden Fronted in every respect so I > don't think there is any question about that bird. However, the male is > intriguing as several people have suggested the possibility of a hybrid. > First I tried checking for pictures of the Red Bellieds, Golden Fronted (both > from guides, internet and my photo library), Florida Red Bellieds and Yucatan > Red Bellieds and Red Bellied x Golden Fronteds (I didn;t find any pictures) > but none seemed to fit the description. So I found this article and the > author's conclusion and designation for what are in her mind hybrids, so > quoting from Smith, Julia I. "Evidence of Hybridization Between Red-Bellied > Golden-Fronted Woodpeckers." The Condor 89:377-386, "In general, putative > male hybrids resemble their female counterparts being characterized by: no > tail bars, only white blotches; reddish-orange to orange fronts; orange to > yellowish-orange bellies; no gray gap on nape; and no extra lateral color on > nape." > > Based on that characterization, I think the male Melanerpes is a Red Bellied > x Golden Fronted. As a side bar, note she rejected use of rump color, > character as diagnostic. > > ray porter > highlands texas > > > > > > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds