Argh argh, never blame the kernel... I've been having endless troubles with the new box that I've got FreeLists running on. I think that cpu fan episode (http://www.freelists.org/archives/linux-discussion/04-2001/msg00035.html) that it shouldn't have, as I've been getting oopses and crashes ever since (haven't had time to do any rigorous testing). Anyway, I think I'm going to just buy a new box for it. Anyone have any suggestions on good places to buy? I have to keep it under $1,000, and I've already got disks/ram (if that tests ok). Barebones is probably ideal, but I need something with some gauranteed quality. With all the recent VIA troubles, I'm a little wary of buying Athlon, but that's how I want to go if possible. Hey Neil, how 'bout some VA sponsorship, eh? I think we're good for the free software community and whatnot... =) John -- # John Madden weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ: 2EB9EA # FreeLists, Free mailing lists for all: http://www.freelists.org # UNIX Systems Engineer, Ivy Tech State College: http://www.ivy.tec.in.us # Linux, Apache, Perl and C: All the best things in life are free!