The 'Penguinistas' Skewer NT

From: "F.M. Taylor" <root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: technocracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:45:51 -0500 (EST)
'Penguinistas'..... I love it, so here is the rest of the story...

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Channel Chatter: The 'Penguinistas' Skewer NT

By Peter Bochner, <i>CRN</i><BR>
2:03 PM EST Fri., Dec. 15, 2000

The Linux community likes nothing more than to skewer NT and
<b>Microsoft</b>. Just follow the latest Linux vs. NT thread, which began
in response to Tuesday's <a
href="http://www.channelweb.com/sections/resources/exclusive/Article.asp?A
rticleID=22321"=target=top>Channel Chatter</a>. That item was based on
<b>IBM</b> Chairman Louis Gerstner's <a
href="http://crn.com/Sections/BreakingNews/BreakingNews.asp?ArticleID=2230
4"=target=top>declaration</a> that "some estimate that Linux will become
more prevalent than NT by 2004," and incorporated a talkback from a reader
who was "penguined out."
Now let's hear from what one reader calls "the penguinistas."
 Matthew Sell writes, "At my company, we decided to trash <I>all </I> of
our NT servers in favor of Linux. After that, we were finally
<I>productive, </I> since we weren't running around like monkeys rebooting
and reinstalling servers. Linux is actually kind of boring as a server. I
haven't done a server reload in 2 years."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7638&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
 Todd W expects NT "to crash and burn before 2004." At that time, he
writes, "who knows who will be dominant? One thing is for sure, though: NT
will not be. The writing is on the wall. NT's technology is inferior, its
security horrendous. MS knows that the end is near (hence .Net). Even
without IBM's money, NT was doomed,market share will erode because people
want something better."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7646&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
According to reader BMH, there are two places where Linux will never
overtake NT: "the amount of money it exploits and the number of bugs
required to produce an expensive upgrade path. NT is a nightmare that has
never worked, and it will continue to only provide expensive upgrade paths
to technology that works equally as poorly."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7648&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
Linux doesn't have to overtake Windows, writes reader Farrell J. McGovern.
"All it has to do is provide a decent alternative. Windows has had no real
competition and thus it, and the infrastructure around it, lack a quality
and polish that should be there. Microsoft has developed a number of
strategies to prevent commercial competition. Nothing in Win2K is new, nor
particularly well done, but it has a marketing, legal and political
juggernaut behind it, and that is the main reason that it has market
share."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7651&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
"Linux is going to overtake NT anyway, IBM's just making it happen
sooner," predicts Tim. "NT is garbage, Linux is gold, yet NT costs as much
as gold, whilst Linux can be had for free. So it is only logical that
Linux will overtake NT . . . if it hasn't already. Because I think current
statistics are wrong, I haven't seen an NT machine in use anywhere in
almost a year, while I see Linux everywhere."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7665&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
According to Rich Kalweic, "The only remaining question is, 'Will there be
anyone stupid enough to persist running Windows NT in 2004?' "
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7668&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
No matter how soon Linux overtakes NT, it's not soon enough for reader
Pepe, who writes, "M$ has been selling crap for the price of gold for too
long."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7671&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
"Whether Linux overtakes NT is moot," writes Trvas. "MS will offer another
flawed product with glittering announcements of new features and
performance, and drop NT like yesterday's garbage. Sooner or later,
decision makers will catch on and walk across the bridge instead of
searching for the escape tunnel. Wonder how many boxes are licensed to run
NT, but are actually running Linux. A billion dollar's worth?"
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7706&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
Paulo Santos writes from Brazil to bring a mathematical perspective to the
debate. "If you count installations, Linux will never outnumber NT: you
need to install NT 20 times to get it right, while you need to install
Linux just once!"
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7716&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>
When Pete wrote that technical training for NT outsells Linux, Novell and
others "by an easy 20 to 1," reader ITatBoeing responded, "This is due, in
no small part, to the incomprehensible, hidden inner workings of NT that
make it a nightmare to configure and keep working. I have no doubt that
even if NT is replaced by another OS, it will continue to show a 20 to 1
[lead in] training cost dollars."
To respond to this talkback, <a href="
http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7718&ArticleID=2
2304 "=target=top>click here.</a>
But let's give the parting shot to someone who runs both NT and Linux.
Having listened to this online roast of NT, reader Ian writes, "I have
heard this type of chatter from the anti-Microsoft constituency for the
past six years. My company runs in a heterogeneous environment, made up of
NT/2000, Linux and Solaris. We have far fewer issues with stability on
NT/2000 than the other operating systems. In my experience, people who
have trouble with NT/2000 simply don't know what it takes to make it run
properly. The same holds true for every OS."
To respond to this talkback, <a
href="http://crn.com/Components/TalkBack/tb-readpost.asp?tbID=1-7719&Artic
leID=22304"=target=top>click here.</a>

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