Wow...and I just wanted someone unsubbed from a list. Glad I didn't ask for data from a backup tape, you'd have me crying on my keyboard. What brought all this back up? Was there some recent news about the FCRC or something? Neil * M.K. Chatterji (chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) on [06-14-00 15:27] did utter: > > Neil, I speak like a bitter old crock from history, but IMHO good ole > Yeah is doomed to ACNS machine room purgatory. It's just a matter of > time now. Just like so many other *nix servers I helped to commission > in the early days when the Lord God said that *nix would never be a > serious reality at ISU--they ended up there to be starved to death > (thunder was the last one--remember that one Paul (arc) Cardwell?) > THe few that survived did so because Life Sciences and Arts and > Sciences were willing to battle the Gods and forced them to hire > Steve. I guess our final thumb-our-noses is to point out where we are > now: not only did they have to embrace unix big time, for even the > most basic institutional ERP needs, but they had to replace thunder > and the other services with more/better unix and they even use Linux! > (Mind you, this is the same group that said microchips would never > replace the mainframe, or that they would ever use a mouse! They even > opposed Ethernet, and even the internet--because they wanted to hang > on to BITNET-- why, it _had_ to be better that TCP/IP!) > > The Lord God has spoken again: "FCRC should not be in ther server > business" and so it will be. We are thankful to John Madden and > before that to Steve Baker for its rescue from hacks and to put it > back on its feet. But just as I told you back in the days when we > brought up a Dreaded Unix Box in FCRC, it would meet its death either > by lack of caring and feeding, or by the politics of "control > freaks". I wasn't far off. I think the FCRC will be disolved into > something under ACNS (or whatever it's now called) or the Library, > with some portion of it kept over in Distance Ed., to provide basic > computer literacy to fewer and fewer faculty. > > -C > > > >Whomever is adminning yeah these days, can you please remove > >weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx from technocracy? I keep getting these and don't have > >admin access to the box anymore. > > > > > >Neil > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . /._ o / --personal="caine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" /|//- / / --business="caine@xxxxxxxxxxx" / ''- / /__ --homepage="http://antediluvian.org/"; ' ~~ http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~