> Whomever is adminning yeah these days, can you please remove > weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx from technocracy? I keep getting these and don't have > admin access to the box anymore. Hey, sorry about the bounces, my box was down (GTE sucks). I mailed you about it from my amber account last week (?). You're the list admin, so you can do all the subbing/unsubbing manually/remotely through Listar's remote admin stuff. Here's the blurb I send to most admins: List administration: This can get somewhat complex, so hang in there... The process is designed around security, so it isn't a natural point-n-click sort of thing. Basically, we send a request to Listar, and it returns our request and adds a "cookie" -- that's the security part. Then we cut and paste what Listar sends back to us into a new email, and send *that* back to it. We send our first email to interaction-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and construct it like this: admin2 subscribe someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx endadmin That's all for the first one. Send that, and within a minute or so, you'll get an automaticall generated email from Listar that'll look something like this: # some stuff up here # that we can ignore # (especially the instructions to "forward" it back to # listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx // job adminvfy interaction 393816E0:317.1:ebbglrnuvaqfgngrrqh subscribe someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx adminend // eoj We cut and paste the stuff in between //job and //eoj into a new email to interaction-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and send it. That's all there is to it-- once you've done it a couple of times, it'll be easy. I've been meaning to work on some online documentation for list moderators, but work's been slow on it. Please let me know if my instructions need any clarification. ..... That might be kinda lame-- lemme know if you need more info. It's a somewhat complex proc, but it gets the job done, and does it pretty securely. John -- # John Madden weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ: 2EB9EA # Sys-Admin / Webmaster, Avenir Web: http://avenir.dhs.org # LANdb: Network Admin Database - http://avenir.dhs.org/landb/ # COMP: Computers & Internet discussion - http://avenir.dhs.org/mailing.html # Linux, Apache, Perl and C: All the best things in life are Free!