I'm saying DON'T buy RCA for yourself. For the same reason that you give. Who want's to work on their own stuff. Walter --- J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote: > So are you saying dont buy RCA or buy RCA because > they break down a lot and > you can make money fixing it on warranty and can > still fix it later when it > breaks down? I dont know about you but I never > have time to fix my own > stuff! Thought I could take some time off this > holiday season but now find > that I can take Christmas morning off only if I > work through the weekends. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave > Greenville SC 29609 > 864 232 3889 > Fax 271 2080 > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:50 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What's the preferred > PTV for me to buy? > > > > Yes, up until lately, Thomson has been a real > money > > maker for us. Probably 35% of the RCA sets we > sell > > don't make it through the warranty period. > > They fail often enough, and are consistant > enough > > that we can fix them rapidly. > > At least, before the latest models. > > I'm having very poor success with them. > > After warranty, they are still money makers, or > > they have been. > > In the last two years, we've had 3 Hitachi's > and > > one Toshiba to fail in warranty. > > We sell hundreds. > > The shop stays full of RCA's all the time. > > I will say that Hitachi and Toshiba are a bitch > > when they do fail, because there is not a huge > > knowledge base on them. > > Certainly not like RCA and Zenith. > > Walter > > --- Philip Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > I will say RCA is predictable. And whatever > we > > > are familiar with we are > > > more efficient with, therefore we like more. > > > Consumer reports rated RCA/GE lowest. Below > > > Sharp,Sanyo... > > > I like RCA, too from a servicer standpoint. > > > They said Sony was rated pretty high but > thought > > > it was overpriced for > > > the quality. Surprisingly Sharp rated very > high. > > > Hmmm. > > > Phil > > > I am still listning, and have not made my PTV > > > decision yet... > > > Phil Bader > > > > > > Electric Medic wrote: > > > > > > > > I also hate Hitachi ptv's, it's RCA for me > and > > > everyone I know, everytime. > > > > especially the PTK195 chassis. Plus, guide > plus > > > is great, I use it everyday. > > > > I can fix 10 RCA's in the time it takes to > fix > > > one Hitachi. Got a 60" rca in > > > > my living room. Ever tried to buy that > flimsy > > > Hitachi main deflection board > > > > for a lightning damaged set. try $700 or > $800 > > > dollars, and that is not > > > > marked up or shipping cost. Not to mention > the > > > board is almost as big as the > > > > set. It takes a trailer behind your service > > > truck to carry it. They put way > > > > too much on one board on a PTV, power > supply, > > > deflection, convergence, and > > > > the kitchen sink. Don't try to ship the > flimsy > > > board off either, the thing > > > > will crack every time. rca by far is the > > > easiest ptv to repair and the > > > > picture is just as good as any of them. I > don't > > > care about free manuals, I > > > > have to buy them anyway every year for 18 > > > manufacturers, most of them never > > > > get opened. and forget tech assist, they > will > > > tell you when you find the > > > > problem call us back and tell us. I can > > > honestly say that I have never got a > > > > fix from any manufacturer tech assist. I > have > > > however, got tons of fixes > > > > from Winstips. Tech Assist is highly > overrated. > > > > > > > > Perry > > > > Electric Medic > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > > Behalf Of J Silverman > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:59 PM > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What's the > preferred > > > PTV for me to buy? > > > > > > > > Well, for one thing, any servicer can sign > up > > > on the Hitachi Web site and > > > > get service manuals, tech tips, and tech > > > assistance FREE. Just try to get > > > > something free from Sony. Also Hitachi will > > > look the world over if you need > > > > a part. They have done it for us many > times. > > > Even sent us a camcorder video > > > > head free to accommodate a customer (who > > > probably did something they wouldnt > > > > admit to and ruined the original head) and > we > > > were not a ASC at the time. > > > > Jerry Silverman > > > > Greentron Inc > > > > 4 Newland Ave > > > > Greenville SC 29609 > > > > 864 232 3889 > > > > Fax 271 2080 > > > > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Garbage" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:57 AM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What's the > preferred > > > PTV for me to buy? > > > > > > > > > You know.....that's funny Walter. I > prefer > > > Sony, you prefer Hitachi. I > > > > hate > > > > > Hitachi. It's a pain to repair when they > go > > > out. But that's because Fort > > > > > Wayne is not a Hitachi Town......So I > guess I > > > should also say to Philip to > > > > > buy something he doesn't DREAD working > on.... > > > like Sony.....well > > > > supported, > > > > > friendly staff......EVERYBODY seems to be > > > Sony authorized repair > > > > > centers....if you live in Hitachi-land > then > > > buy Hitachi.....I've seen > > > > > Hitachi, and they don't look bad, pretty > good > > > TV set. But ask yourself "If > > > > > it breaks, who will service it?" > > > > > > > > > > Damon Brunger > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "walter wood" > <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:06 AM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What's the > > > preferred PTV for me to buy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil, have you ever changed the > > > coupling/cooling > > > > > > fluid in the projectors. > > > > > > As you are a tech, it won't cost much. > > > > > > We sell, or have sold, Toshiba, > Hitachi, > > > Pioneer, > > > > > > zenith, philips, rca, Samsung, sony. > > > > > > It's a no brainer. > > > > > > Either Toshiba or Hitachi. > > > > > > I wouldn't even bring anything else > home as > > > a gift. > > > > > > Between those two, the Hitachi seems to > > > have an > > > > > > edge over the Toshiba when viewing a > NON HD > > > signal. > > > > > > Most all true HD tv's look worse than > their > > > non hd > > > > > > counterparts when on "regular" tv. > > > > > > However I've had a few(very few) more > > > failures in > > > > > > the Hitachi. > > > > > > Toshiba's have almost NO defects. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Walter > > > > > > --- support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > > Well Phil, > > > > > > > For one, I would not buy from CC or > Sears > > > or > > > > > > > Wal-Mart. > > > > > > > Perhaps there is a shop in your area > that > > > sells > > > > > > > new. > > > > > > > I have a Hitachi 57" HD wide > > > screen....sure it > > > > > > > was free, but I love it. You know you > can > > > get > > > > > > > service > > > > > > > manuals for these and free tech help. > > > > > > > I know Pioneer and Toshiba make > decent > > > sets.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Dougherty > > > > > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > > > > > 263 S Front St > > > > > > > Steelton PA 17113 > > > > > > > fax...717-564-4952 > > > > > > > www.intrepid-video.com > > > www.tech-repair.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Philip Bader" > > > <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:44 > PM > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] What's the > > > preferred PTV > > > > > > > for me to buy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know this is a wide area, but for > the > > > ASC's and > > > > > > > others who see more of > > > > > > > these newer projection TVs, if you > were > > > > > > > purchasing one for your own use > > > > > > > (in the 50-55 inch range) and money > WAS > > > an > > > > > > > object, what would be your > > > > > > > choice? > > > > > > > Consider not only price but quality, > > > servicing, > > > > > > > repair incedence (in the > > > > > > > shop more than at home), etc. > > > > > > > Factor all this in, throw me some > > > makes/models. > > > > > > > Wifey is cruising around Circuit > City! > > > > > > > Argh. > > > > > > > Our old PTV325 maggie is working but > the > > > CRTs are > > > > > > > getting a bit low. > > > > > > > Phil Bader > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Philip Bader > > > > > > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. 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