A customer is the one that gives you money. A person on the phone is not a customer until he gives you money. Most shops at this time do not charge for public relations. It may come to that with a 900 number, but not yet. Often a technician, owner, does not count his time as an expense. He ends up working 18 hours a day to make the pay of 8 hours. It is extremely difficult to troubleshoot a set and answer the phone. Several years ago I worked up a spread sheet program to calculate the cost of doing business. It added up all expenses and divided it by the number of sets you can fix in a day. It would give the cost per set. You could change the number of sets, change the number of technicians, add a secretary etc and find out how much each sets costs. Joe Batchelor CET TX 80 11/4/02 3:39:38 PM, "Mouton's Electronics" <moutons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >The customer pays for you to answer the phone??? Which one, the customer on >your bench or the customer on the phone? If the customer on the phone pays >for info, what do you do to collect? > >This is an interesting topic since I spend a large portion of the day >interupting my work to answer questions over the phone. Usually for people >who never bought anything from us in the first place. I have often wished we >had a 900 number for phone down time. > >Jason > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joe Batchelor" <jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:23 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What do you charge? > > >> >> I do not answer the phone for free. >> >> The customer has to pay for my answering the phone. >> >> If you have a store front with rent, lights, insurance, phones, etc >> the cost to open the door each day is about $800. This will vary >> with location and size of the shop, but is a good reference. >> >> If you work out of your bedroom, with the wife paying the rent, lights etc >> then the cost is much less. >> >> Often a good technician goes into business thinking he will get rich, >> without knowing how to calculate the cost of doing business. >> >> Be sure you can calculate the cost of doing business before trying to >> run your own shop. >> >> >> Joe Batchelor CET TX 80 >> >> 11/4/02 9:37:28 AM, "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >Your charging the custormer for answering your phone?? >> >Phillip R Hull >> >phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Phil Bader" <philbad@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:32 AM >> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: What do you charge? >> > >> > >> >> >> >> That's $125.00/ hr.Many of us have fixed a 27" TV in about an hour and >> >> gave an estimate of about 125.00. >> >> There are "holes in the bucket" as well taking away from pure chargable >> >> tech time(phones ringing,etc).I bet the final tally is about 75.00/hr >> >> really. >> >> Phil Bader >> >> >> >> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> > >> >> > $1000.00 for 8 hours...WOW!!!!! >> >> > Tommy Herman >> >> > Herman TV >> >> > >> >> > In a message dated 11/04/2002 5:49:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> >> > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >> >> > >> >> > Depends how long it takes. I usually have to figure about $1000.00 >labor >> >for >> >> > a full 8 hour day so if it takes 4 hours, I have to estimate it for >> >$500. If >> >> > they decline it, there's plenty of other work to do where I can make >it. >> >> > >> >> > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28 >> >> > Master Technician License #9109 >> >> > Service Manager >> >> > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms >> >> > (508)695-7302 >> >> > (508)695-7769 FAX >> >> > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > geminitv@xxxxxxx >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Lyles Tv" <tech@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:28 PM >> >> > Subject: [TechAssist] What do you charge? >> >> > >> >> > > To replace the heat transfer fluid in the mag projos?? >> >> > > Jeff Farnsworth >> >> > > Lyles TV and Appliance >> >> > > 17 S Washington St >> >> > > Elkhorn, Wi. 53121 >> >> > > ph 262-723-3477 >> >> > > fax 262-723-3658 >> >> > > tech@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > Tommy Herman >> >> > Herman TV >> >> > 250 School Ave SW >> >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681 >> >> > 828-632-5322 Voice >> >> > 828-632-3880 Fax >> >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------ >> >> > To REMOVE your email address, click here: >> >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html >> >> > To CHANGE your email address, click here: >> >> > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html >> >> > ------------------------------------------ >> >> > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** >> >> > Submit Repair Tips here: >> >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Philip Bader >> >> Jan Phyl TV Inc. 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