Oops I forgot the link> My apologize, and resend with the link in place. For what it is worth, here is a link to the product description page of the vendor that produces Maxblast, and EZDrive... I got there by searching for Microhouse... http://www.storagesoft.com/products/drive_utils/ez_drive.asp Mike Goins jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx At 05:51 AM 10/12/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >Yeah, that installation utility (IBM, Maxtor, WD) all look >the same when installing, probably same company, but you >can't transpose one for the other, I've tried it. Glad you >mentioned ontrack diskgo. Now that is something to avoid. >If anyone sees this on an installation floppy, do not install >it or use it, try and delete it from the floppy (I've never >tried that, but you should make a copy of it first in case it >must be needed for correct operation of the floppy's >installation utility). It may be good for diagnosing >problems, but it loads some software that runs with WINDOWS, >and from the VERY FIRST boot, the PC will continually try to >connect to the internet and download all sorts of garbage! >It does this while you are trying to install all the drivers >on a new HD or format. It is in the autoexec.bat, start up >folder and on C: drive as well as the temp folder. What a >pain. You have to run MSCONFIG and uncheck all instances of >it there under the startup tab, then uncheck it in the >autoexec.bat tab, and it also dumps files in the temp folder >which will also try and run all the time. Empty that too. >Even after it's finished downloading all the software, and >you are through with it, the program runs in the background >all the time (this is why these things above must be done). >At this point when it is running, it is some kind of a >monitoring software. Personally I think this is more trouble >that it's worth. If one runs scandisk and defrags on a >regular basis, it's not needed. It's just something else >running in the background that can cause errors and consume >memory & resources. This type software is on the newest >western digital installation floppy (and the download too). >I cannot recall if it's on the newest Maxtor installation >floppy. What I do is keep an old version of all hardware >manufacturer's installation utilities and use them instead of >this new trash. Now after all this, Ron may not even end up >having to reformat! :-) >-Clint > >God Bless Us All >Clint Hamilton, Owner >http://OrpheusComputing.com >sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Tech-Assist Administration >http://tech-assist.org >techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:01 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATERe: Friends Gateway 500 >essential,won't load win98 > > > I am not 100% certain , but I think that Western Digital's >EZDRIVE , and >Maxtor's MAXBLAST, are just single vendor versions of the >same program. The >interface reminds me of Ontrack's "Disk Manager." I think the >drive >preparation is stii pretty much the same, as generic, as you >can not really >low level format most current drives. > BTW with a standard format if you lose the MBR, you simply >use a >recovery diskette, and the undocumented, FDISK /MBR, > I ran Maxblast when I still had a 486, which hung with >drives over 8 >Gigabytes. It may be subjective, but I believe the >Maxblast drive was noticably slower than when I jumpered the >drive to limit >size to 7.9G and started clean. > It also seems like I had some problems also when I used the >drive as a >slave when I added another drive. > Also if it is Disk Manager in disguise , the diagnostics >probably will >still work on a generically prepared drive. > Mike Goins >jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >At 03:46 AM 10/12/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >> >>Yeah, linux was not the issue here though..that's whole >>'nother topic. It is much more stable to use a >>manufacturer's installation disk, well..because it's their >>own, and that's exactly why; they do use special formatting >>procedures which are best suited for their specific name >>brand hard drive. Now, ezdrive can be bad news, I don't >>recommend it, (unless of course like you said, a mobo bios >>limitation) but I do recommend maxblast installation IF of >>course a Maxtor HD is used. It (and so does western >>digital's, seagate's, etc. versions) loads diagnostic >>utilities, UDMA & PIO settings, and recovery procedures that >>can really save your neck. A 'generic format' does not. If >>an MBR virus does hit, you'd probably have problems >rewriting >>to a HD regardless of the format method. With a good AV >>program and daily updates, this would not that much of a >>concern. >> >>Yes, the win98 CD is bootable and it will format a HD, if of >>course the mobo's BIOS has the option to boot from a CDROM >>drive. >>-Clint >> >>God Bless Us All >>Clint Hamilton, Owner >>http://OrpheusComputing.com >>sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Tech-Assist Administration >>http://tech-assist.org >>techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>(PLEASE include previous correspondence >>if replying to this email!!) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:33 AM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATERe: Friends Gateway 500 >>essential,won't load win98 >> >> >>I personally do not recommend using EZDRIVE, MAXBLAST, or >>anything like >>that to setup a harddrive, unless you have a Bios that is >not >>compatible >>with the harddrive. I think these things write their own >>oddball master >>boot record, and if any thing happens to it (i.e. virus) >you >>might have >>problems rewriting it. Also have doubts about these things' >>compatiblity >>with a LILO loader, if you want ever to install Linux. >> I believe the W98 CD is bootable, so if you set the CD as >>the first boot >>device, it should boot. I think the W98 setup will partition >>and format the >>drive. ( I am not 100% sure, because, I always setup >>manually, because I >>want more control. >> >> >>At 09:20 PM 10/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>> >>>Ron, you never want to run Fdisk unless you absolutely have >>>to. Just use the format utility from the hard drive's >>>manufacturer, this is always the best and fastest way. The >>>win98 installation floppy has CDROM drivers on it, that's >>how >>>it installs windows from the CD. Do you need me to email >it >>>to you? >>>-Clint >>> >>>God Bless Us All >>>Clint Hamilton, Owner >>>http://OrpheusComputing.com >>>sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Tech-Assist Administration >>>http://tech-assist.org >>>techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>4orpheus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (alternates) >>>orpheuscomputing@xxxxxxxxx >>>pchardware@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>(PLEASE include previous correspondence >>>if replying to this email!!) >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Ron Miller" <rlmbkm@xxxxxxxx> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:50 AM >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATERe: Friends Gateway 500 >>>essential,won't load win98 >>> >>> >>> >>>Downloaded GWscan tested hard drive with it failed the >>>test,time for a new >>>hard drive. >>> I do need a Win98 boot disk with a D driver. >>> Question will the boot disk let me run F-disk and format >>one >>>new HD? >>>Attachments and scans OK. rlmbkm@xxxxxxxx Thanks >>>Ron Miller >>>D.T.V. Texas >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Dave" <dazevedo4@xxxxxxxx> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:18 AM >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Friends Gateway 500 >>essential,won't >>>load win98 >>> >>> >>>> >>>> you can also down load gwscan from gateway web site, this >>>also has a hard >>>> drive test on it. >>>> Dave >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "TechAssist Admin." >><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:21 AM >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Friends Gateway 500 >>>essential,won't load win98 >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Ron, don't let scandisk run. What happens when you >exit >>>from >>>> > scandisk, will it then go into windows? If so, run >>>scandisk >>>> > then. If not, start in safe mode then go into windows >>>and >>>> > run scandisk. If it will not boot into safe mode, boot >>>to >>>> > the command prompt (C:) and run scandisk from there and >>>see >>>> > what happens. Have you tried to restore a previous >>>version >>>> > of the registry? >>>> > -Clint >>>> > >>>> > God Bless Us All >>>> > Clint Hamilton, Owner >>>> > http://OrpheusComputing.com >>>> > sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> > Tech-Assist Administration >>>> > http://tech-assist.org >>>> > techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> > (PLEASE include previous correspondence >>>> > if replying to this email!!) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: "Ron Miller" <rlmbkm@xxxxxxxx> >>>> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Friends Gateway 500 >>>> > essential,won't load win98 >>>> > Date sent: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:07:17 -0500 >>>> > Send reply to: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > Turn on get Win98 splash screen then scandisk comes >on >>>and >>>> > tries to run but get >>>> > > this message:scandisk encountered a data error while >>>> > reading the FAT on drive C. >>>> > > This error prevents scandisk from fixing this drive. >>>> > > Given this info is the C drive blown or can I make >>>further >>>> > test . >>>> > > Ron Miller >>>> > > D.T.V. 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