They do...Jeff. But a dying breed. The last CRT rebuilder we have (Hi-Vac) is barely holding on. Even Monitor and R/P are on the way out. Just talked to Roy last week, at Hi-Vac...Direct View are a thing of the past. And pricing of new TV's do not make it economical to change CRT's anymore. -Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shoreline Electronics" <jstielau@xxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > This why I tell all my customers who mention " I want a Plasma set! > ".......no you don't! You'll be sorry in the end. > > CRT based sets rule! > > ========================== > Jeff Stielau > Shoreline Electronics Repair > 344 East Main Street > Clinton,CT 06413 > 860-399-1861 > 860-664-3535 (fax) > jstielau@xxxxxxxx > ======================== > "If you push something hard enough it will fall over." > Fudd's First Law of Opposition - Sir Sidney Fudd > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > > > > Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of new products > > are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals available and > > once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it is more > > than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against some of > > this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far over > > the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like NESDA > > should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know? > > > **************************************************************************** > *************************************** > > Since 1972 > > Jim Myers > > Telrad Electronics > > Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > > > > Ed Gaidies wrote: > > > Whole new Rip-Off. > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > Ontario-Canada > > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > > > > > > > > > > > >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when they wanted > > >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code" to unlock the > > >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you over the > > >>phone, by email, or snail-mail) > > >> > > >>Doug Keller > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics > > >>101 Freeland Ave. > > >>Terra Alta, WV > > >>USA 26764 > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Jim Myers wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the customer. > > >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix it for a cool > > >>>$1000.00. > > >> > > > >>************************************************************************** > * > > > > > > **************************************** > > > > > >>>Since 1972 > > >>>Jim Myers > > >>>Telrad Electronics > > >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Jim Myers wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There is no pullup > > >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll try Zenith > next > > >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model. > > >> > > > >>>************************************************************************* > * > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > > > >>>>Since 1972 > > >>>>Jim Myers > > >>>>Telrad Electronics > > >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor output lead? > > >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3) volts with the > > >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor? > > >>>>>J Silverman > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three tenths of a > > >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the remote. I > traced > > >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount square > > >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18 and it is on > the > > >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat panel monitor > > >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or the board? > > >>>>>>Thanks, > > >> > > > >>>>>*********************************************************************** > * > > > > > > ******** > > > > > >>>>>>*********************************** > > >>>>>>Since 1972 > > >>>>>>Jim Myers > > >>>>>>Telrad Electronics > > >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Hello Jim, > > >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule out the > > >>>>>>>receiver. But it > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Thanx, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Scott Beebe > > >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc. > > >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St. > > >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850 > > >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406 > > >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743 > > >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com > > >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the inside that says > > >>>>>>>it is a > > >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at the office > > >>>>>>>caused a > > >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on the front, > now > > >>>>>>>it has > > >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time with the > > >>>>>>>cursor bar > > >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no longer works. > > >>>>>>>The wire > > >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has three tenths of > a > > >>>>>>>volt and > > >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is activated. The > end > > >>>>>>>wire on > > >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like the micro or the > > > > > > IR > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service manual or > > >>>>>>>information on > > >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice. > > >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>Jim> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>*********************************************************************** > * > > > > > > ******** > > > > > >>>>>>*********************************** > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972 > > >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers > > >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics > > >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > > > ----- > > > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Jim> Lost Password: > > >>>>>>>Jim> http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>>>>>>Jim> Email Archives: > > >>>>>>>Jim> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > > > ------ > > > > > >>>>>>>Lost Password: > > >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>>>>>>Email Archives: > > >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > >>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > > > ----- > > > > > >>>>>>Lost Password: > > >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>>>>>Email Archives: > > >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > > > > > > ---- > > > > > >>>>>Lost Password: > > >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>>>>Email Archives: > > >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > > > -- > > > > > >>>Lost Password: > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>>Email Archives: > > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --- > > > > > >>Lost Password: > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > >>Email Archives: > > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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