[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.

OK, I'll move on if everyone else will.,....but,...
BTW;...the only REAL problem with Nesda, is the fact that they only
represent 5-8% of the service shops. What they need to do is try better to
get us ALL involved. They have NO power because they are too few in number.
Convience them to lower their rates, and bring the rest of us on board. We
will fight to help them, if they wiill only learn to listen to what the
members have to say. Get their numbers up from a measly 400-600, to about
60%, or 5,000 members. Drop there dues from $300 / year to about $75-100.
They will have MORE $$$ to operate with, if they would do that. We ALL like
to be a member of an Organization that truely represents the majority,..NOT
just a self appointed few.

IMHO,
LLW

LeRoy Westlund
Westlund TV & Electronics
97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: Intrepid Video Support <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:47 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.


>LeRoy,
>It won't happen. Even with NESDA, there are not enough shops that are
members to make these kinds of
>demands. And to try and start another organization, from scratch..no way.
>The best thing to do is work as best you can with the manufacturer.
>Think of all the money these manufacturers put out to be at the convention,
offer training courses and
>more...they don't have to do this, but many of them do.
>Look at Hitachi and all the time they have given to NESDA members. This
cost them money. That Alvie is a
>genius on their units and you can count on him to answer NESDA members
until fairly late at
>night...amazing...
>It's a shame that too many people can only find time to criticize one
person or organization, and just can
>not see past some of the minor flaws that you will have with any
organization...
>It's time to be practical.
>Even Tech Assist...as an organization, many people are unhappy with the
posts being public, but we stay.
>Why? Because the benefits far out weigh this one flaw...
>I think it's time to move on to another subject...and those who know not
what we are talking about, keep
>an open mind
>
>Jeff
>--
>Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
>263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
>717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
>www.intrepid-video.com  www.tech-repair.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:54 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>
>
>Jim,
>Maybe you should have stayed with them, and offered your services to run
for
>President of that Organiztion.
>There have been a LOT of good people coming, and going from that particular
>Organization, ( I could name a few,...but,..they know who they
>are ).....but,...NONE of them have had the guts, to get mixed up with them
>to the point of making major changes, and offering to take the bull by the
>horn.
>
>I would have stayed with them, after the ONE year of free
>membership,....but,...I could not keep up with the financial burden that it
>placed on me. It's the same problem as you run into, if you were to run for
>pesident of the U.S.,..the POOR guy has NO chance,...ONLY the most
>successful members have the time, and the finances to be involved with all
>there conventions, meetings, etc.,...and these are the people that always
>need the least amount of help.
>
>The top brass of Nesda are there for their own benifit, and social
>positions, and they only use the rest of us to help pay the dues, and the
>bills, that keep them in power. I'm not sure this is the best place
> TechAssist ), to be discussing the operations of other peoples
>associations. Maybe we need to start our OWN Associasion, and not be so
>friendly towards the Manufacturers. How about it ? Anybody out there who
>wants to be in the top brass positions of a NEW organization ? You guys
help
>compose the messages that you want to get through to the
>manufacturers,....and I'll send them for you. Just provide the e-mail
>addresses for me. Let's get some of you ASC guys involved, and threaten the
>manufacturers to stop doing warranty work for them, until they get in line,
>and clean up there act.
>
>There are also, a lot of members on this list who have never been involved
>with Nesda, that MIGHT could help us form a NEW Association, that could
>better serve us remaining independents by approacing things from a
different
>direction, and with a MORE stern attitude.
>.
>Just a thought,
>LLW
>
>LeRoy Westlund
>Westlund TV & Electronics
>97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:35 PM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>
>
>>Doug,
>>I wouldn't stand one one foot waiting for the manufacturers to increase
>>quality and prices.
>>People want "cheap products". Why do you think Wal-mart is so successful?
>We
>>as businessmen have to accept this as our new environment to which we must
>>adapt or perish.
>>
>>I always thought that NESDA could have done alot more for the service
>>industry by working on issues like;
>>Standardization of warranty proceedures and electronic entry formats.
>>
>>Standardization of manual distribution format.
>>
>>Product serviceability (such as all projos should have a rermoveable light
>>box, etc).
>>
>>Work with the membership to develop a useful universal, comprehensive
>>call/claim management system for automating the industry.
>>
>>Lobby for better rates or better methods of repairing inexpensive items. (
>>such as not requiring component level repair)
>>
>>Well, you get the idea...I could go on...
>>
>>Jim McVey
>>McVey Alltronix
>>327 Broadway
>>Newburgh Ny 12550
>>ph: 845 561 8383
>>fx: 845 561 9017
>>Consumer electronics &
>>computer service.
>>Factory authorized for
>>over twenty brands.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:24 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>>
>>
>>> Al has that right. Basically, we either all stand together or we fall
>>> apart. How many more guys are going to have to go belly-up before some
>>> see the writing on the wall? ALL servicing under warranty must stop
>>> before the manufacturers start getting complaints from former customers.
>>> We will have to stick together and hit them in the wallet, or they will
>>> never even look our way. The "every man for himself" attitude has to
>>> stop or we are ALL doomed! The coalminers and teamsters did it. No
>>> reason we can't. Get the prices of new back up to where they should be
>>> and start putting some "QUALITY" back into them. Then people won't mind
>>> paying more than $25 to get one fixed, if they know they can't run to
>>> wallyworld and get a new one for $35.
>>>
>>> Doug Keller
>>> Wis-Kel Electronics
>>> 101 Freeland Ave.
>>> Terra Alta, WV
>>> USA        26764
>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://www.tech-assist.org
>>> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al L wrote:
>>>
>>> >38 years here talking: We don't have the union mentality because when
>the
>>> >chips are down, its always every man for himself,always has been.No
>>matter
>>> >what people say,its like that. I help whenever I can, have been burned
>>often
>>> >by local guys.NESDA is helpful because we are not competing
>locally,hence
>>> >can be helpful and friendly.
>>> >    Would you really tell the guy next door how to attract more
>>customers?
>>> >al
>>> >
>>> >Al Leatherman
>>> >224 RT. 46
>>> >Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>> >973-361-5796
>>> >WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM
>>> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>True enough, but the manufacturers have a GREAT DEAL of influence
since
>>> >>NESDA owes it's very existence to them.
>>> >>It's a "service dealers" association in name only. That's why there is
>>no
>>> >>"union-like" rhetoric found there.
>>> >>
>>> >>Jim McVey
>>> >>McVey Alltronix
>>> >>327 Broadway
>>> >>Newburgh Ny 12550
>>> >>ph: 845 561 8383
>>> >>fx: 845 561 9017
>>> >>Consumer electronics &
>>> >>computer service.
>>> >>Factory authorized for
>>> >>over twenty brands.
>>> >>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>From: <greentron@xxxxxxx>
>>> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>Cc: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:31 PM
>>> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
>>> >>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>I dont think there is anything left BUT small independent servicers!
>Th
>>e
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>big guys, not supported by some other big guy, like Sears, and having
>>> >>captive customers, have pretty much all gone belly up. Just as you
cant
>>> >>squeeze blood out of a stone, you cant squeeze enough money out of
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >repairing
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>consumer electronics to support an organization. I am not aware of ANY
>>big
>>> >>service organizations being a member of Nesda. With a total less than
a
>>> >>thousand members, it would be like the tail trying to wag the dog.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>J Silverman
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>That's why I said Nesda?
>>> >>>>I shouldn't knock them...but I don't think they have the Small
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>Independent
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>Servicer on their mind. I don't belong..so I will keep my mouth
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>(keyboard)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>shut.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-Ed-
>>> >>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>> >>>>Ontario-Canada
>>> >>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:02 PM
>>> >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
>>> >>>>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>NESDA look into something? ??????
>>> >>>>>NESDA is more "over the hill" than you are! LOL
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Jim McVey
>>> >>>>>McVey Alltronix
>>> >>>>>327 Broadway
>>> >>>>>Newburgh Ny 12550
>>> >>>>>ph: 845 561 8383
>>> >>>>>fx: 845 561 9017
>>> >>>>>Consumer electronics &
>>> >>>>>computer service.
>>> >>>>>Factory authorized for
>>> >>>>>over twenty brands.
>>> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
>>> >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
Plasma
>>> >>>>>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of new
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>products
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >available
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>and
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it is
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >more
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against some
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >of
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>over
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like NESDA
>>> >>>>>>should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>>
>>>*************************************************************************
*
>*
>>*
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>***************************************
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>Since 1972
>>> >>>>>>Jim Myers
>>> >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>> >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>Ed Gaidies wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Whole new Rip-Off.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>-Ed-
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>> >>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
>>> >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>Plasma
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when they
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>wanted
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code" to
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>unlock
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>the
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you over
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>the
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>Doug Keller
>>> >>>>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>> >>>>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>> >>>>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>> >>>>>>>>USA        26764
>>> >>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>> >>>>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>> >>>>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>customer.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix it for
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >a
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>cool
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>$1000.00.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>***********************************************************************
*
>*
>>*
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>*
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>****************************************
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>Since 1972
>>> >>>>>>>>>Jim Myers
>>> >>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>> >>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There is no
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>pullup
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll try
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>Zenith
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>next
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>**********************************************************************
*
>*
>>*
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>*
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>*****************************************
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>Since 1972
>>> >>>>>>>>>>Jim Myers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>> >>>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >output
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>lead?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3) volts
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>with
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>the
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>J Silverman
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >tenths
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>of a
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the remote.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >I
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>traced
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount square
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18 and it
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >is
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>on
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>the
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat panel
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>monitor
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>board?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>********************************************************************
*
>*
>>*
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>*
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>********
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>***********************************
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Since 1972
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Jim Myers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello Jim,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule out the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>receiver. But it
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanx,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Scott Beebe
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the inside
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>that
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>says
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it is a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>office
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>caused a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>front,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>now
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it has
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time with
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>the
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>cursor bar
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no longer
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The wire
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has three
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>tenths
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>of
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>a
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>volt and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >activated.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>The
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>end
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>wire on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >micro
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>or
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>>the
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>>IR
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service manual
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >or
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>information on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>********************************************************************
*
>*
>>*
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>*
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>********
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>***********************************
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
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