[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.

  • From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:49:25 -0400

You can work with someone to solve problems or you can confront them and
make demands. Nesda solves what problems it can by working with both parties
towards a solution. When you use the confrontational approach, the bigger,
stronger guy wins. Or, maybe, like David, you can kill Goliath. But then
what do you do next?
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.


> Voices of progress should not be considered
> "troublemakers", yet that's EXACTLY how they are perceived!
> So, us "troublemakers " move on and let the "old guard" give each other
> longevity awards.
> Life goes on...
>
> Jim McVey
> McVey Alltronix
> 327 Broadway
> Newburgh Ny 12550
> ph: 845 561 8383
> fx: 845 561 9017
> Consumer electronics &
> computer service.
> Factory authorized for
> over twenty brands.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:52 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>
>
> > What it takes to change NESDA is some of us troublemakers willing to
stick
> > it out.
> >
> > NESDA is made up of some of the "common people", the trouble is too many
> are
> > not willing to speak up.  Me, I choose my fights over there.  I have
made
> a
> > few people upset, and a few things have changed.  Not enough.
> >
> > However I have neither the time nor the financial resources to do more
> than
> > sit on the sidelines.
> >
> > Wayne Vanaman
> > Omega Electronics
> > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
> >
> > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> >
> > 850-456-5995 voice
> > 850-458-6369 fax
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:10 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> >
> >
> > > Al,
> > >
> > > You see, that's the problem. The "big shots" are the public face of
> NESDA.
> > > If they make it difficult to participate or change the organization
for
> > the
> > > better, people get turned off very quickly.
> > >
> > > Our local chamber SEEKS OUT new ideas and opinions. If the consensus
is
> > that
> > > something needs changing, then IT GETS CHANGED.
> > > No angry denunciations and inuendo-just PROGRESS and a spirit of a
> common
> > > goal.
> > >
> > > NESDA needs to be more like the chamber of commerce and become more
> > > accessable to be effective.
> > >
> > > Just one man's "opinion".
> > >
> > > Jim McVey
> > > McVey Alltronix
> > > 327 Broadway
> > > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > ph: 845 561 8383
> > > fx: 845 561 9017
> > > Consumer electronics &
> > > computer service.
> > > Factory authorized for
> > > over twenty brands.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:04 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > >   You fit better than you think.I and a few others are considered
> NESDA
> > > > troublemakers,screw em. I get help on business tips,tech tips,meet
> nice
> > > > guys,and joined the New York group.I can share ideas since we aren't
> > next
> > > > door.
> > > >    I get on Toshiba,RCA,and Hitachi websites through NESDA,get free
> > > > manuals,am not an asc.Most importantly, I went to the convention,met
> > > > privately with a lot of small guys,and discovered I am pretty
> > typical.Its
> > > > nice to have people to consult with.
> > > >     Don't take the NESDA "big shots" seriously,and things are fine.I
> > > > frequently openly oppose them and got on sever al parts
websites(they
> > > fought
> > > > me) recently,and convinced them to provide help on the tech
tips.They
> do
> > > > listen, sometimes reluctantly.
> > > >    Then there is the training on various manufacturers,last week
> > Toshiba,
> > > > next month JVC.I am going to the Va. convention for training and
> > > > partying,and Nashville later this summer. I get good value for my
> money.
> > > al
> > > >
> > > > Al Leatherman
> > > > 224 RT. 46
> > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > > > 973-361-5796
> > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Al,
> > > > > What happens when the guy next door joins as well?
> > > > > I don't know if it's really possible to attract individual
customers
> > in
> > > > this
> > > > > business.
> > > > > They need you when they need you, otherwise the servicer is a
> > > non-entity.
> > > > > The usual retail type techniques are too inefficient for us since
we
> > > > cannot
> > > > > generate "impulse buy" interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you say, it IS every man for himself! You are a wise man not to
> > share
> > > > > your promotional ideas with a competitor, it can only come back to
> > bite
> > > > you.
> > > > > However, what does NESDA do other than collect dues and throw a
> party?
> > > > > All their "programs" can be found elsewhere as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you enjoy the convention and veteran member cliques, then I
> suppose
> > > > it's
> > > > > worth it for you. I was more interested in improving the lot of
the
> > > > service
> > > > > business in the US (and Canada). I didn't fit in.
> > > > > Hey, it's all about choices! To each his own...
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim McVey
> > > > > McVey Alltronix
> > > > > 327 Broadway
> > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > > > ph: 845 561 8383
> > > > > fx: 845 561 9017
> > > > > Consumer electronics &
> > > > > computer service.
> > > > > Factory authorized for
> > > > > over twenty brands.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:17 PM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 38 years here talking: We don't have the union mentality because
> > when
> > > > the
> > > > > > chips are down, its always every man for himself,always has
> been.No
> > > > matter
> > > > > > what people say,its like that. I help whenever I can, have been
> > burned
> > > > > often
> > > > > > by local guys.NESDA is helpful because we are not competing
> > > > locally,hence
> > > > > > can be helpful and friendly.
> > > > > >     Would you really tell the guy next door how to attract more
> > > > customers?
> > > > > > al
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Al Leatherman
> > > > > > 224 RT. 46
> > > > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > > > > > 973-361-5796
> > > > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > True enough, but the manufacturers have a GREAT DEAL of
> influence
> > > > since
> > > > > > > NESDA owes it's very existence to them.
> > > > > > > It's a "service dealers" association in name only. That's why
> > there
> > > is
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > "union-like" rhetoric found there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim McVey
> > > > > > > McVey Alltronix
> > > > > > > 327 Broadway
> > > > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > > > > > ph: 845 561 8383
> > > > > > > fx: 845 561 9017
> > > > > > > Consumer electronics &
> > > > > > > computer service.
> > > > > > > Factory authorized for
> > > > > > > over twenty brands.
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Cc: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:31 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
> > Plasma
> > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I dont think there is anything left BUT small independent
> > > servicers!
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > big guys, not supported by some other big guy, like Sears, and
> > > having
> > > > > > > captive customers, have pretty much all gone belly up. Just as
> you
> > > > cant
> > > > > > > squeeze blood out of a stone, you cant squeeze enough money
out
> of
> > > > > > repairing
> > > > > > > consumer electronics to support an organization. I am not
aware
> of
> > > ANY
> > > > > big
> > > > > > > service organizations being a member of Nesda. With a total
less
> > > than
> > > > a
> > > > > > > thousand members, it would be like the tail trying to wag the
> dog.
> > > > > > > > J Silverman
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's why I said Nesda?
> > > > > > > > > I shouldn't knock them...but I don't think they have the
> Small
> > > > > > > Independent
> > > > > > > > > Servicer on their mind. I don't belong..so I will keep my
> > mouth
> > > > > > > (keyboard)
> > > > > > > > > shut.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Ed-
> > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > > > > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > > > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:02 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re:
> Gateway
> > > > Plasma
> > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > NESDA look into something? ??????
> > > > > > > > > > NESDA is more "over the hill" than you are! LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jim McVey
> > > > > > > > > > McVey Alltronix
> > > > > > > > > > 327 Broadway
> > > > > > > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > > > > > > > > ph: 845 561 8383
> > > > > > > > > > fx: 845 561 9017
> > > > > > > > > > Consumer electronics &
> > > > > > > > > > computer service.
> > > > > > > > > > Factory authorized for
> > > > > > > > > > over twenty brands.
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re:
> > Gateway
> > > > > Plasma
> > > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing,
lots
> > of
> > > > new
> > > > > > > products
> > > > > > > > > > > are exchange only, no parts available, no service
> manuals
> > > > > > available
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > once the product is out of warranty the price to
> exchange
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws
> > against
> > > > > some
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but
I'm
> > too
> > > > far
> > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > > the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some
organization
> > like
> > > > > NESDA
> > > > > > > > > > > should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone
> > know?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
****************************************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > ***************************************
> > > > > > > > > > > Since 1972
> > > > > > > > > > > Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > > > > Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Ed Gaidies wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Whole new Rip-Off.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Ed-
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution!
Re:
> > > > Gateway
> > > > > > > Plasma
> > > > > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be
more
> > when
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > wanted
> > > > > > > > > > > >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret
> > code"
> > > > to
> > > > > > > unlock
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't
tell
> > you
> > > > > over
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Doug Keller
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > >>101 Freeland Ave.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Terra Alta, WV
> > > > > > > > > > > >>USA        26764
> > > > > > > > > > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > > > > > > > > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> > > > > > > > > > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Jim Myers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure
from
> > the
> > > > > > > customer.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone
to
> > fix
> > > it
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>$1000.00.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>**************************************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ****************************************
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Since 1972
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Jim Myers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed.
> > There
> > > is
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > pullup
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem.
> > I'll
> > > > try
> > > > > > > Zenith
> > > > > > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > >
> >
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>>>*************************************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > *****************************************
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Since 1972
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the
> > sensor
> > > > > > output
> > > > > > > > > lead?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or
maybe
> 3)
> > > > volts
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>J Silverman
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just
> > three
> > > > > > tenths
> > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from
> the
> > > > > remote.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > traced
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface
> > mount
> > > > > square
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is
> 6413079F18
> > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a
flat
> > > panel
> > > > > > > monitor
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the
ic
> or
> > > the
> > > > > > > board?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>***********************************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ********
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>***********************************
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Since 1972
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Hello Jim,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would
> rule
> > > out
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>receiver. But it
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Thanx,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Scott Beebe
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on
> the
> > > > inside
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > says
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>it is a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a
worker
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > > office
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>caused a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the
> buttons
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > front,
> > > > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>it has
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all
the
> > time
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>cursor bar
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the
remote
> no
> > > > > longer
> > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>The wire
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector
> has
> > > > three
> > > > > > > tenths
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>volt and
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote
is
> > > > > > activated.
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>wire on
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds
> like
> > > the
> > > > > > micro
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > IR
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has
> service
> > > > manual
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>information on
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>***********************************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ********
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>***********************************
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select
> "Login
> > > > > > > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> > > > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> > > > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> > > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> > Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > > > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > ---
> > > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---
> > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > > > Email Archives:
> > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ---
> > > > Lost Password:
> > > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > > Email Archives:
> > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---
> > > Lost Password:
> > > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > > Email Archives:
> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > Lost Password:
> > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> > Email Archives:
> > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> Lost Password:
> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> Email Archives:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/


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