[TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC

  • From: Doug Keller <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:17:15 -0500

It has so far. It isolates the filament from everything else.

Doug Keller
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Kevin wrote:

>Does the flyback wire-wrap trick prevent the picture tube from shorting
>out and blowing up the P/S?
>
>Kevin Wilks
>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>Penticton BC Canada
>kevintv@xxxxxxx 
> 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Keller
>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:55 AM
>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>
>I never had any callbacks after using the filament wire-wrap trick.
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>walter wood wrote:
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>>Not sure, but that's what some other tech's called
>>it.
>>Probably because it couldn't be detected with most
>>crt testers.
>>I think it was mostly a problem with the coating
>>coming off of some of the elements in the gun, and
>>shorting intermittently between them.
>>Some techs have spoken of placing the crt on it's
>>face and tapping on it while rejuvinating.
>>I personally never saw much point, as I figured
>>more coating would just fall off later.
>>What's your take on the subject?
>>Walter
>>--- Kevin <kevintv@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
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>>>Why do you call it the "soft short"?    
>>>
>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx 
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>Behalf Of walter wood
>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:49 PM
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>
>>>Seems to me that Goldstar was the CRT supplier
>>>when
>>>Zenith was having such a bad time of it with the
>>>"soft short" taking out all the main boards, and
>>>the sets being "Not worth fixing".
>>>That was pretty much all the '90's.
>>>I never could figure out why Zenith didn't find
>>>another CRT supplier.
>>>I guess that was a way to tear zenith down so
>>>Goldstar could buy them.
>>>Walter
>>>--- Tel-Tek Electronics <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>wrote:
>>>   
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>>>      
>>>
>>>>When they became LG Electronics. 
>>>>
>>>>-Ed-
>>>>
>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>
>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>Behalf Of Kevin
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 PM
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>
>>>>When did Korea (Goldstar) take over control of
>>>>Zenith?
>>>>
>>>>Kevin Wilks
>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
>>>>Penticton BC Canada
>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:10 PM
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>
>>>>Actually rca and ge tvs as we knew them have
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>not
>>>   
>>>
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>>>
>>>>existed since about
>>>>1989,
>>>>the story goes like this, ge bought rca, which
>>>>owned nbc, banquet foods,
>>>>burlington mills, hertz  rent a car, hazeltine
>>>>research, sarnoff labs,
>>>>and
>>>>randomhouse publishing, and last but not least
>>>>their consumer
>>>>electronics
>>>>company, this was at the time the largest non
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>oil
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>buyout ever,ge started
>>>>selling what it did not want(everything except
>>>>nbc), and then made an
>>>>offer
>>>>to thomson of france, to swap their combined
>>>>consumer electronics
>>>>company
>>>>for thomson's medical equipment division, seems
>>>>as though ge really
>>>>started
>>>>thomson, then the french nationalized it, now
>>>>     
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>it
>>>   
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>>>      
>>>
>>>>appears that the french
>>>>have decided to take advantage of the "so
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>called
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>global economy" and buy
>>>>into the chinese producers so they can  sell
>>>>     
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>>>>        
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>>>fine
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>products along with
>>>>funai
>>>>and apex etc, pretty sad
>>>>
>>>>charles betzler
>>>>Best Electronics
>>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:36 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>
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>>>>>It's all over now,....but the cryin !
>>>>>We can't get by without RCA/GE sets,...and we
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>don't want China to be
>>>>     
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>>>>        
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>>>>>involved to anymore degree then they allready
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>are in our Industry.
>>>>When
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>>>>>Korea took over control of Zenith by
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Goldstar,...that's when Zenith
>>>>went
>>>>to
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>the dogs,...and now we will see that happen
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>with RCA (Radio
>>>>Corporation of
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
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>>>>>America),..what a laugh.
>>>>>
>>>>>LLW
>>>>>
>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics              I've
>>>>>       
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>heard it said:
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>>>>>93 North Main                            
>>>>>       
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>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>"that
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>>>>a fool never learns"
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>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087     It kinda
>>>>>       
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>>>reminds
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>>>>me of me.
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>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>>>>Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:17 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
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>>>>>>But the Chinese have control, and it is
>>>>>>         
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>>>>expected
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>>>>>>that they will have full ownership in 6
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>>>months
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>>>>or
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>>>>>>so.
>>>>>>One of Thomson's tech support guys told me
>>>>>>         
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>that he
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
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>>>>>>was going to work at Home Depot, and is
>>>>>>         
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>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>expecting
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>>>>>>everyone to be laid off in that department.
>>>>>>He said that people were dissappearing
>>>>>>         
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>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>around
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>>>
>>>>there
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>>>>>>every day.
>>>>>>Oh well, rca couldn't get much worse than
>>>>>>         
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>>>the
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>>>>>>ATC311.
>>>>>>Walter
>>>>>>--- "Phillip R. Hull"
>>>>>>         
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>>><phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>>>Its 2/3 s   Owned by a Co. in China.  That
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>what was said at a RCA meeting
>>>>>>>a couple of weeks ago.
>>>>>>>Phillip R Hull     STET
>>>>>>>phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>FAX 517--569-3075
>>>>>>>Professional Technicians only
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics"
>>>>>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Some conglomerate from France...me
>>>>>>>>             
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>>>>>>>>                
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>>>thinks.
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>>>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>>On
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>>>>>>>Behalf Of Keith Trumbla
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM
>>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Thomson TEC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who owns Thomson now ?
>>>>>>>>Keith Trumbla
>>>>>>>>BEM Electronics Inc.
>>>>>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St.
>>>>>>>>WPG. MB. R3H 0Y4 Canada
>>>>>>>>Ph.204.775.2875 Fax.204.774.9192
>>>>>>>>www.bemelectronics.com
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