It has so far. It isolates the filament from everything else. Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA 26764 dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself" Kevin wrote: >Does the flyback wire-wrap trick prevent the picture tube from shorting >out and blowing up the P/S? > >Kevin Wilks >Kevin's TV & Video Repair >Penticton BC Canada >kevintv@xxxxxxx > > >-----Original Message----- >From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Keller >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:55 AM >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC > >I never had any callbacks after using the filament wire-wrap trick. > >Doug Keller >Wis-Kel Electronics >101 Freeland Ave. >Terra Alta, WV >USA 26764 >dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >http://www.tech-assist.org >"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you >won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > >walter wood wrote: > > > >>Not sure, but that's what some other tech's called >>it. >>Probably because it couldn't be detected with most >>crt testers. >>I think it was mostly a problem with the coating >>coming off of some of the elements in the gun, and >>shorting intermittently between them. >>Some techs have spoken of placing the crt on it's >>face and tapping on it while rejuvinating. >>I personally never saw much point, as I figured >>more coating would just fall off later. >>What's your take on the subject? >>Walter >>--- Kevin <kevintv@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Why do you call it the "soft short"? >>> >>>Kevin Wilks >>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair >>>Penticton BC Canada >>>kevintv@xxxxxxx >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>Behalf Of walter wood >>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:49 PM >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>> >>>Seems to me that Goldstar was the CRT supplier >>>when >>>Zenith was having such a bad time of it with the >>>"soft short" taking out all the main boards, and >>>the sets being "Not worth fixing". >>>That was pretty much all the '90's. >>>I never could figure out why Zenith didn't find >>>another CRT supplier. >>>I guess that was a way to tear zenith down so >>>Goldstar could buy them. >>>Walter >>>--- Tel-Tek Electronics <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>When they became LG Electronics. >>>> >>>>-Ed- >>>> >>>>Ed Gaidies >>>>Tel-Tek Electronics >>>>Ontario-Canada >>>> >>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>Behalf Of Kevin >>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 PM >>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>> >>>>When did Korea (Goldstar) take over control of >>>>Zenith? >>>> >>>>Kevin Wilks >>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair >>>>Penticton BC Canada >>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>Behalf Of >>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:10 PM >>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>> >>>>Actually rca and ge tvs as we knew them have >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>not >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>existed since about >>>>1989, >>>>the story goes like this, ge bought rca, which >>>>owned nbc, banquet foods, >>>>burlington mills, hertz rent a car, hazeltine >>>>research, sarnoff labs, >>>>and >>>>randomhouse publishing, and last but not least >>>>their consumer >>>>electronics >>>>company, this was at the time the largest non >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>oil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>buyout ever,ge started >>>>selling what it did not want(everything except >>>>nbc), and then made an >>>>offer >>>>to thomson of france, to swap their combined >>>>consumer electronics >>>>company >>>>for thomson's medical equipment division, seems >>>>as though ge really >>>>started >>>>thomson, then the french nationalized it, now >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>it >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>appears that the french >>>>have decided to take advantage of the "so >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>called >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>global economy" and buy >>>>into the chinese producers so they can sell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>fine >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>products along with >>>>funai >>>>and apex etc, pretty sad >>>> >>>>charles betzler >>>>Best Electronics >>>>repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:36 PM >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>It's all over now,....but the cryin ! >>>>>We can't get by without RCA/GE sets,...and we >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>don't want China to be >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>involved to anymore degree then they allready >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>are in our Industry. >>>>When >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Korea took over control of Zenith by >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Goldstar,...that's when Zenith >>>>went >>>>to >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>the dogs,...and now we will see that happen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>with RCA (Radio >>>>Corporation of >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>America),..what a laugh. >>>>> >>>>>LLW >>>>> >>>>>LeRoy Westlund >>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics I've >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>heard it said: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>93 North Main >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>"that >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>a fool never learns" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 It kinda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>reminds >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>me of me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:17 PM >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>But the Chinese have control, and it is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>expected >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>that they will have full ownership in 6 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>months >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>or >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>so. >>>>>>One of Thomson's tech support guys told me >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>that he >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>was going to work at Home Depot, and is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>expecting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>everyone to be laid off in that department. >>>>>>He said that people were dissappearing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>around >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>there >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>every day. >>>>>>Oh well, rca couldn't get much worse than >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>the >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>ATC311. >>>>>>Walter >>>>>>--- "Phillip R. Hull" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>><phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Its 2/3 s Owned by a Co. in China. That >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>is >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>what was said at a RCA meeting >>>>>>>a couple of weeks ago. >>>>>>>Phillip R Hull STET >>>>>>>phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>FAX 517--569-3075 >>>>>>>Professional Technicians only >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" >>>>>>><teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:05 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Thomson TEC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Some conglomerate from France...me >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>thinks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>-Ed- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ed Gaidies >>>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics >>>>>>>>Ontario-Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>On >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Behalf Of Keith Trumbla >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM >>>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Thomson TEC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Who owns Thomson now ? >>>>>>>>Keith Trumbla >>>>>>>>BEM Electronics Inc. >>>>>>>>Suite 212-530 Century St. >>>>>>>>WPG. 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