That's way too hot, it must be shorted. Damon Brunger damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Telrad Electronic Services Ft Wayne, IN 46815 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Miglinas" <miglinasj@xxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA p52929 > > Thanks Dennis for the advice and the tip, this wouldn't be so bad if it > wasn't so damn intermittent.One thing I did notice, the two ic's inside the > tuner can get pretty warm, especially U17501.(can't hold finger on it after > ~10 seconds) Is this normal? Never had problem with the tuner in any > manner. > Hope you have a quiet sunday. > Regards Jonas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Viereck" <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:08 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA p52929 > > > > > > I have had several peripherals cause the data or clock line to short to > ground. > > In this method you can now isolate all peripherals from the Run data/clock > > lines. The Digicon, PIP, Combfilter, T4 chip, AV switch, ... anything that > > attaches to the buss can cause this problem. The best thing is to isolate > > everything that is easy to isolate first. But remember both line must be > high as > > long as you have jw12410 removed and U13101(3 & 4) isolated. > > > > Good luck > > > > Dennis > > > > ps; My last problem child like this one was the PIP module. I had a > surface > > mounted capacitor leaky causing the data line to be sitting at 2.2 volts. > > > > Jones Miglinas wrote: > > > > > Hi Dennis, > > > I cut 12410 and got 12 + 5 volts back, set did not turn on. Floated > pins > > > 3+4 and got 5v at pin 4, missing 5v at pin three. Started to trace and > > > voltage would come back. Bending , hitting, and freezing board doesn't > seem > > > to affect the 5v in one way or another. I checked the K20 area and it > seems > > > solid. Have you ever had missing data/clock due to bad convergence > board? > > > Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > Regards Jonas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dennis Viereck" <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 12:33 AM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA p52929 > > > > > > > > > > > Error code 16 means, "RUN buss stuck to a Logic low" > > > > > > > > To check that circuit, carefully cut the jumper JW12410 located next > to > > > the square metal shield that surrounds the Main Microprocessor. > > > > By cutting this jumper you have just turned on the U14701 the 5 and 12 > > > volt regulator. > > > > Be sure you have these voltages. If these are OK then try to turn on > the > > > TV. > > > > > > > > If it turns on test play the set a while. See if it operates > correctly. If > > > so you may have to perform an upgrade on the F2PIP reset circuit. > > > > > > > > If It still will not turn on then float the pins on U13101(3 & 4) and > > > measure the voltage on the foil pads. THEY BOTH MUST BE 5 VOLTS!. If not > > > you'll have to trace these lines and isolate them until you get the 5 > volts > > > back. Note: If someone has previously worked on the tuner then I would > start > > > there and check coordinates K20. This is an area where the data and > clock > > > line make a 90 degree turn out from under the shield. This trace is so > close > > > to the shield it sometimes gets touched with solder in the process of > > > reattaching the shields for the tuner. > > > > > > > > Let me know if you need any other information on this unit. > > > > > > > > Denins > > > > > > > > Jonas Miglinas wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > I have a ctc195 chassis that is less than a year old that will shut > off > > > and won't start (not even a click) and will stay off from 5 minutes to > 5hrs > > > or so. this symptom can occur from 1 to two times a day to 1 time a > week. > > > Chipper shows error code "16" ,run or data lines clamped to logic "0".I > do > > > get Stnby voltages of 16 + 33 + 140+ -12 . Whats missing are the +5 and > +12 > > > from U14701.Pressing power, pin 19 of u13101 tries to go high but only > > > reches 1.3v The outputs of U14701 at Stnby ~ 1v at power on may reach > ~3v. > > > I've changed U14701, U14101, Q14101, U3101, and the T4 chip. Also > checked > > > y13101 and its associated circuitry. Substituted Gemstar fom another > like > > > model and that checked out ok. > > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > Regards Jonas > > > > > > > > > > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > > > > > database better! Submit your fixes here: > > > > > http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > > > > To unsubscribe write to: > > > > > techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > > > > database better! Submit your fixes here: > > > > http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > > > To unsubscribe write to: > > > > techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > > > database better! 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