[TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no pwr on

From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:19:57 -0400
Well, OK, but you came "this close" to being tossed of the 
forum...Trying to  be helpful...
Now, stop it.
Just kidding, Perry.
As for other chassis, tho these ATC113's are very similar to the 
CTC203's and I bet I can scan those for symptoms and come close,yes?
;-)
Phil

Philip Bader
Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
Fax (863) 299-8821
email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



Electric Medic wrote:

>NO, NO, NO Phil: Somebody wrote that they didn't know what chassis but they
>new of a problem like yours with those two bad caps, 1000uf@35v  and I
>stupidly mentioned a PTK195 had a high failure rate on those caps. I thought
>that was a common fix and everyone would figure out what was going on. I
>never intended to suggest that the ATC113 had them. Disregard. I should have
>never said anything. I thought maybe someone could find that helpful, but,
>my mistake.
>
>Perry Bower
>Electric Medic
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Phil Bader
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:45 PM
>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no
>pwr on
>
>
>I see no 1000uf@35v at edge of chassis.
>Ant location numbers??? Or is this a "chassis cross-post"?
>;-)
>Phil
>
>Philip Bader
>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>Fax (863) 299-8821
>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>Electric Medic wrote:
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>>Those caps are very common on the PTK195 set. They are the two medium sized
>>cans over by the edge of the main board. I have fixed many replacing both
>>caps. That is a fix many overlook. Anybody else seen those?
>>
>>Perry Bower
>>Electric Medic
>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bob@bobsTV
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:49 AM
>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no
>>pwr on
>>
>>
>>Phil,
>>    Had a similar problem, can't remember chassis but it was a newer one..
>>Had B+  and 5 and 12 were ok. But pushing the power button the +5V supply
>>dropped to like 1V... Found two 1000/35V caps in power supply one had HI
>>    
>>
>ERS
>  
>
>>replacing one corrected the problem..If your set has these caps you may
>>    
>>
>want
>  
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>>to check... I thought I posted it but may have been another chassis, or my
>>mind is failing from old age...
>>Bob.
>>
>>Bob's TV    Worcester, ma
>>
>>woodman17@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:13 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no pwr
>>on
>>
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>>>You mean you had some that had good standby voltages, didn't try to
>>>start up, no clicks, no chirps,etc, and if you lifted the good HOT,
>>>still dead? Usually if the HOT is removed, the set will then at least
>>>power on with sound. Mine doesn't. Has anyone had this senereo?
>>>Phil Bader
>>>
>>>Philip Bader
>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>
>>>Peter oliver wrote:
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>>>>The last few we've seen of this chassis have been a bad flyback  (one
>>>>
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>>blew
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>>>>the HOT one did not)
>>>>
>>>>Peter Oliver
>>>>Tucson Radio TV
>>>>
>>>>From: Randy Evans <tvsvc2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no
>>>>
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>>pwr
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>>>>on
>>>>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:44:35 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>>Hi Joel..........Bad Flyback !
>>>>
>>>>Randy J. Evans
>>>>VCR SERVICE
>>>>Delta, Ohio  43515
>>>>Joel Jacobs <samurai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>Phil,
>>>>I have one here with the same symptoms with one addition - the LED in the
>>>>middle of the power button does flash for times slowly each time I push
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>the
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>>>>power button. I'm getting ready to scope out the horiz drive circuit.
>>>>I'll let you know if I find something. I do know it is NOT the jungle
>>>>chip;)
>>>>
>>>>Joel Jacobs
>>>>Ohio consumer electronics
>>>>Pickerington, Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Phil Bader"
>>>>To:
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:51 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no pwr on
>>>>
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>>>>>Plugged in,I have +139 VDC at collector of HOT in standby. I have
>>>>>
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>>+5VDC
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>>>>>at I/R detector. Either pushing power button, or with remote, no
>>>>>response. HOT good, smps seems OK.
>>>>>Resoldered LL04 coil to HOT base (like the CTC203), resoldered fly and
>>>>>
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>>H
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>>>>>drive transformer.
>>>>>Not a peep when power pushed.
>>>>>Phil Bader
>>>>>
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>>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
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>>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
>>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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References:
- [TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no pwr on
  - From: Electric Medic
[TechAssist] Re: RCA F36444, ATC113CA1 dead. standby B+ OK no pwr on

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