[TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
- From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:19:42 -0600
Someone on this list commented about having a delay when changing channels.
Mine has @ 1-1/2 to 2 second delay between channels
which seems to be normal on all the digital sets I have seen.
So I am not concerned with this.
Robert
tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
H & H Electronics Inc
Dallas, TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> Mine too ran all night and is still running but I also have that slight
> momentary wiggle when the channel is changed. Perhaps the resistor is not
> the problem but we appear to be in the vicinity of the problem like the
caps
> in that same circuit area, thus we "altered" the circuit with the 910 ohm
> resistor and somehow "compensated" somewhat affecting the signal at pin 17
> and therefore have that "wiggle".
>
> Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:39 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
>
>
> > Hi Bob,
> > mine ran all night and is still OK this morning
> > I have noticed a slight horizontal wiggle in picture as channel is
changed
> > but very slight. Will continue to run and check Monday also.
> > Yes, I will get back to you when I hear from Thomson.
> >
> > HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! ;>)
> >
> > Robert
> > tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > H & H Electronics Inc
> > Dallas, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:15 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> >
> >
> > > I concur with your findings. Both the parts list in the ESI Automan
> > program
> > > and RCA Parts Finder show it to be a 910 ohm resistor, part# 256743
but
> > the
> > > schematic does show it as a 15K which is what was in the set. I did
not
> > have
> > > a 910 ohm surface mount, so I have just temporarily installed a 910
ohm,
> > 1/2
> > > watt flameproof. I will let it run around the clock until at least
> Monday
> > > and let you know how I make out. Please let me know what the Thomson
> reply
> > > is to your request.
> > >
> > > Also, the other set I have of this same model that was shutting down
> after
> > > warm is still running great after replacing the flyback!
> > >
> > > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
> > > Master Technician License #9109
> > > Service Manager / Parts Manager
> > > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
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> > > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:47 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bob,
> > > > Below is what I have found with my 27V530T
> > > > (sent to Thomson )
> > > >
> > > > Will run a couple days to confirm fix and get back to you with
> Thomson's
> > > > response.
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > > Product: TV
> > > > Model: 27V530TYX1
> > > > SerialNumber: D276C408NE
> > > > Chassis: ITC008FBK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Servicer's comments follow:
> > > > After on awhile when change channels will lose Horizontal sync.
Found
> by
> > > > heating and then cooling components at pin 17 of IV001 would affect
> > > problem.
> > > > When replacing componets RV001 in schematic is 15K ohms, but in
parts
> > list
> > > > it is 910 ohms.
> > > > Replacing with 910 ohm appears to have solved problem!!
> > > > Can you confirm what should be the correct value part for RV001?
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Robert Herring
> > > > H&H Electronics Inc
> > > > tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:26 PM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is an update on the two sets I have. I will start with the
> second
> > > one
> > > > I
> > > > > received that would run fine for about 15 - 30 minutes from a cold
> > start
> > > > and
> > > > > then completely shut down. The set would have to be unplugged
before
> > you
> > > > > could restart it again and there were no error codes indicated in
> the
> > > > > service menu. As the set was "warmer", the amount of time it would
> > stay
> > > on
> > > > > would decrease and sometimes it would not restart at all. I
received
> a
> > > new
> > > > > flyback for this on Wednesday and installed it late Wednesday
> > afternoon
> > > > > before heading home for Christmas Eve. I left the set running
around
> > the
> > > > > clock and it was fine when I came in this morning so it looks like
> the
> > > > > flyback was the culprit on this one. I shut the set down and
removed
> > the
> > > > > micro/signal processor IC (ref# IV001, RCA part# 264079) so that I
> > could
> > > > > swap it with the same IC on my other set that would loose
horizontal
> > > > > frequency and scramble after it was warm. (Note: the IC's I
ordered
> > have
> > > > > been on backorder for a while and I was only doing this for
> > > > troubleshooting
> > > > > confirmation to see if the symptom would change to the other TV).
> Well
> > > as
> > > > > luck would have it, neither set will now exhibit the frequency
> symptom
> > > and
> > > > > both are running great for the moment anyway. I completed the IC
> swap
> > > > about
> > > > > 6 hours ago. I will continue to monitor both of them and let them
> run
> > > > around
> > > > > the clock for the entire weekend to see how they are when I come
in
> on
> > > > > Monday morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
> > > > > Master Technician License #9109
> > > > > Service Manager / Parts Manager
> > > > > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
> > > > > (508)695-7302
> > > > > (508)695-7769 FAX
> > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxx
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Paul Westcott" <westcott@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:44 AM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bob,
> > > > > > For the set that keeps shutting off,check for cold solder
> > > > > > connections on the pincushion board..I had three with the same
> > > > problem.It
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a highly intermittent condition.
> > > > > > I ended up soldering complete board and hard-wireing the cable
at
> > > > > connector
> > > > > > BL103.So far, the sets have been in the field for about two
> months.
> > > > > > HTH.
> > > > > > Paul Westcott
> > > > > > Kingsway Electronics
> > > > > > 1090 kingsway
> > > > > > Sudbury,Ontario
> > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > Phone 705 566-9290
> > > > > > Fax 705 566-5349
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:43 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The first one I received sounds like it has the same problem
as
> > > yours.
> > > > > See
> > > > > > > this excerpt from my previous post:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The customer's complaint is intermittently the screen will
> > scramble
> > > > > (looks
> > > > > > > like the horizontal frequency may be off similar to installing
a
> > new
> > > > > > EEPROM
> > > > > > > on a CTC177) and sometimes the picture goes to black and
white.
> > The
> > > > > > symptom
> > > > > > > only happens after the set is warm and ONLY if any setting
> change
> > is
> > > > > made
> > > > > > > (channel change, volume, input....etc). It indicates error
code
> > > "136"
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the MSP IC (ref# IS100). See if yours indicates the same. Late
> > > > yesterday
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > swapped IS100 between the two sets I have now and let it run
> > > > overnight.
> > > > > > When
> > > > > > > I came in this morning, I changed the channel and it lost sync
> > again
> > > > so
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > appears that IS100 is not the problem with it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The other set will run for usually a short period of time and
> shut
> > > off
> > > > > > > completely. It may restart but if it does, the run time gets
> > shorter
> > > > > > before
> > > > > > > it shuts off. Sometimes you have to unplug it to get it to
> > restart.
> > > It
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > not indicate any error code. I am suspect of the flyback on
this
> > > one.
> > > > I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > on the road most of today so tomorrow I may swap the
> micro/signal
> > > > > > processor
> > > > > > > IC (ref# IV001) between them to see what that does.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
> > > > > > > Master Technician License #9109
> > > > > > > Service Manager / Parts Manager
> > > > > > > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
> > > > > > > (508)695-7302
> > > > > > > (508)695-7769 FAX
> > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > > www.geminicomputertvsecurityalarms.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:36 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bob, what are the symptoms with your sets?
> > > > > > > > I picked up one that after changing channels a few times
loses
> > > > > > horizontal
> > > > > > > > sync.
> > > > > > > > Have not started troubleshooting yet.
> > > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > > > tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > H & H Electronics Inc
> > > > > > > > Dallas, TX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:15 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have some on order from Tritronics and some on order
from
> > > Jason
> > > > at
> > > > > > > Excel
> > > > > > > > > Distributing. Jason said that Thomson had two showing to
be
> in
> > > > stock
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > was expecting them in but he has not received them as of
> yet.
> > I
> > > am
> > > > > > aware
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the drop ship but have not done that in quite some time.
> Talk
> > > > about
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > SLOW
> > > > > > > > > boat FROM China!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
> > > > > > > > > Master Technician License #9109
> > > > > > > > > Service Manager / Parts Manager
> > > > > > > > > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
> > > > > > > > > (508)695-7302
> > > > > > > > > (508)695-7769 FAX
> > > > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > www.geminicomputertvsecurityalarms.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:05 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You do know you can have those new parts for new
products
> > drop
> > > > > > shipped
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > distributors don't stock them as yet Bob, or has that
> > > procedure
> > > > > > > changed
> > > > > > > > > > also?
> > > > > > > > > > **************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > > > Since 1972
> > > > > > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services Co.
> > > > > > > > > > Fort Wayne, IN 46815
> > > > > > > > > > *************************************************
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Gemini Computer & TV" <geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:01 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Oh yes and what a honey they are! Now I have about 8
parts
> > on
> > > > > order
> > > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > > them and not a single distributor has any of them in
> stock.
> > I
> > > > > > already
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > very upset customer on the first one. Go Thomson!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
> > > > > > > > > > Master Technician License #9109
> > > > > > > > > > Service Manager / Parts Manager
> > > > > > > > > > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
> > > > > > > > > > (508)695-7302
> > > > > > > > > > (508)695-7769 FAX
> > > > > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > www.geminicomputertvsecurityalarms.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:45 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Is this a new TV or a RCA with a different chassis?
> > > > > > > > > > > Al Marquardt
> > > > > > > > > > > ampm@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
> > > > > > > > > > > 206 W Main
> > > > > > > > > > > Girardville Pa. 17935
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Gemini Computer & TV"
<geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have two of that exact same model and it appears
> that
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > nature
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > beast with these as both of mine behave the same as
> > yours.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28
> > > > > > > > > > > > Master Technician License #9109
> > > > > > > > > > > > Service Manager / Parts Manager
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms
> > > > > > > > > > > > (508)695-7302
> > > > > > > > > > > > (508)695-7769 FAX
> > > > > > > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > geminitv@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > www.geminicomputertvsecurityalarms.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Paul Westcott" <westcott@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:49 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] RCA 27V530T ITC 008 chassis
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone tell me if it is normal for these
sets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to have a slight delay when changing channels ( 1
to
> > > 11/2
> > > > > > sec.)
> > > > > > > > > (picky
> > > > > > > > > > > > > customer).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul Westcott
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kingsway Electronics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1090 kingsway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sudbury,Ontario
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> > > > > > Lost Password:
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> > > > > Lost Password:
> > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?".
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> > > > >
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> > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?".
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> > > >
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