This site can help identify manufacturer of motherbboards fron BIOS id numbers (on Award and AMI BIOS') http://www.wimsbios.com/ Mike Goins jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx At 11:11 AM 11/2/01 -0600, you wrote: > > >Well, that narrows it down about a thousand motherboards! ><laughs> You need the model # of the board to get the >drivers for it. Did you try what I suggested? (removing the >device then changing the bios a few times like I said then >restarting?) >Model # of the board would be on it somewhere, just have to >look good. >-Clint > >God Bless Us All >Clint Hamilton, Owner >http://OrpheusComputing.com >sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Fax: 209-882-9602 >TechAssist Administration >http://tech-assist.org >techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >4orpheus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (alternates) >orpheuscomputing@xxxxxxxxx >pchardware@xxxxxxxxxxxx >(PLEASE include previous correspondence >if replying to this email!!) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "tom lee" <t8872695@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:30 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Question about computer > > > >Hello Clint. >The mother board is china made. WINBOND , VIA chipset. >The detail of IDE controller has ! yellow said error code 10 >, >"this device is not present, or not working properly,or does >not have >all drivers installed. Try upgrading device driver for this >device." >I do not know what to do from here. I have standard cd . and >win98 is >installed from >this cd drive.does machine need driver if cd drive is >standard.? >Dang >-----Original Message----- >From: TechAssist Admin. <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: TechAssist <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:02 AM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Question about computer > > >> >>Yes, it can. In short, this is how (in the BIOS) the choice >>is made if one wants to boot from the CDROM drive. Also on >>the first BIOS menu entry (1st on most, 2nd on a few) CDROM >>drives as well as other optical or laser devices (LS120, >etc) >>show up there. >> >>Tom, you still do not mention the motherboard brand or >model. >>If this is an Intel chipset board, you usually do not need >>any drivers for it (as far as the IRQ routing, IDE >>controllers, Bus mastering, etc. goes). If it is a non >Intel >>chipset board (SiS, VIA, ALi, etc), you usually do need >>drivers for these mentioned above. If you have removed the >>yellow marked devices from the DM and restarted and windows >>still puts yellow marks there, you either need drivers or >>it's an IRQ problem. The yellow marks will either be a ? or >>an !. I forget which, but one is a driver problem and the >>other is a resource (IRQ) conflict. >> >>To find out which, highlight the device(s) with the yellow >>mark then look at the properties and it will state there >what >>the problem is. Then you go from there. If it states a >>driver, then you know what to do. If it states a resource >>conflict, there are 3 things you can do. One, go into the >>BIOS under the "PnP settings" (for Award) and what ever the >>entry "PnP OS..........yes/no" is set to, change it to the >>other, then restart. Change this back and forth from yes >and >>no a few times and restart. This will in many cases fix the >>conflict. If this does not, another way is you have to >>uncheck the box 'automatically detect settings' at this >prior >>area mentioned above in the DM (device manager) in one of >the >>tabbed areas. Sometimes this area is grayed out and you >>cannot uncheck or check this box, or sometimes it is absent >>all together. This means of course you cannot change the >IRQ >>setting from within windows. if you are able to change it, >>most of time when you attempt to pick a number from 1-15, it >>will tell you if that # is available or not. Remember most >>IRQ's can be shared, and some cannot be shared. For >>instance, most mice are IRQ 3, most video cards are IRQ 11 >>(on my PC, 11 is also my DSL modem). To see a list of IRQ >>assignments, go to 'system information' and expand 'hardware >>resources'. Then you can click the appropriate areas at the >>left margin for IRQ info, (shared, conflicts, settings, >>forced, etc). >> >>If you are not able to set an IRQ from within windows, then >>there is the 3rd way. Go in the BIOS under the PnP area >>and put the 'resources controlled by' to 'manual' if it is >>set to 'auto', or auto if it is manual. If you set it to >>auto, it will assign IRQ's. If you set it to manual, you'll >>just have to pick what's available by trial and error until >>you find one that works. You can free up IRQ's there, >>then they will be available in windows, so windows then >>can theoretically reassign IRQ's and get rid of the yellow >>marks (of course only if the yellow mark is an IRQ >conflict). >>You can also rearrange your PCI/ISA cards to possible >>free up an IRQ. >>-Clint >> >>God Bless Us All >>Clint Hamilton, Owner >>http://OrpheusComputing.com >>sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Fax: 209-882-9602 >>TechAssist Administration >>http://tech-assist.org >>techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>4orpheus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (alternates) >>orpheuscomputing@xxxxxxxxx >>pchardware@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>(PLEASE include previous correspondence >>if replying to this email!!) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Richard Golden" <reldong@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:30 PM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Question about computer >> >> >> >>some one tell me if i'm wrong on this? >>I don't think you can see if your cd is on in cmos? >>your computor detected it on setup,your setup disk >>turned it on? and now you have problem on primary >>drive (yellow !) and no cd, I think its there , >>just delete and reboot let win 98 find them???? >> >>ps do you have same cable connected to both hd&cd >>if you do and hd is in middle and cd is on the end of >>cable,try them the other way? >>good luck richard >> >>--- tom lee <t8872695@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Richard. >>> I your case may be you already have C,D.. by some >>> reasons your computer >>> fails to detect the drive. My case Is after install >>> win98 the os does not >>> detect cd drive (D) >>> even though I install Win98 from this cd drive. >>> Dang >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Golden <reldong@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:47 AM >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Question about computer >>> >>> >>> > >>> >I've had this problem ,after i >>> checked,cmos,cable,etc, >>> >go to safe mode,device manager,delete all >>> drives,and >>> >controllers,and all yellow! rebooted and everthing >>> >came back, 98 set it back up.scary but worked for >>> me >>> >lots of times. >>> >richard >>> > >>> > >>> >--- Lawrence Tucker II <kc4iai@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Did I miss something? Have any adjustments, at >>> all, >>> >> been done to the >>> >> hardware? Did this CD ever show up and work? If >>> this >>> >> is a new install, it is >>> >> possible to reverse the data cable and not have >>> the >>> >> drive work and no error >>> >> message will appear. It is possible to hit the >>> data >>> >> cable and dislodge it >>> >> causing the same problem. Same is true of the >>> power >>> >> cable. >>> >> >>> >> Either your emergency boot disc or the 98 >>> installed >>> >> software should have >>> >> discovered the hardware and installed the minimum >>> >> driver. A valid emergency >>> >> boot disc has a generic CD ROM driver that is >>> >> intended to allow you to load >>> >> Windows from a CD. >>> >> >>> >> To test power to the CD ROM put in an audio CD >>> and >>> >> use earphones to >>> >> determine that the Drive is good. If that works >>> pull >>> >> and replace the data >>> >> cable. The red stripe should go toward the power >>> >> plug but if it is backwards >>> >> on the motherboard or card it will have to be >>> >> reversed to work. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >From: "tom lee" <t8872695@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Question about >>> computer >>> >> >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:33:46 -0800 >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >Hello Clint. >>> >> >My computer shows type of cd drive atapi ide on >>> >> bios bootup routine as >>> >> >secondary, also primary hard drive. >>> >> >After bootup to windows 98 .It shows IDE >>> controller >>> >> (FIFO) with yellow >>> >> >mark. >>> >> >on both primary ,secondary >>> >> >at device manager.I use win98 SEcond edition. do >>> I >>> >> need update driver for >>> >> >higher version?and where I can get it. Do you >>> have >>> >> tool that I can help me >>> >> >to install cd drive to win98?. I can purchase >>> it. >>> >> >DANG TVCR >>> >> >PS may be my windows needs good IDE controller >>> .My >>> >> computer has AWARD >>> >> >MODULAR BIOS 4.51pc. >>> >> >-----Original Message----- >>> >> >From: TechAssist Admin. >>> >> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> >To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> >Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:30 AM >>> >> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Question about >>> computer >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >Is it showing up in the BIOS or on the first >>> BIOS >>> >> boot up >>> >> > >screen? First be sure it is jumpered >>> correctly >>> >> (either >>> >> > >master, slave or cable select) and the cable >>> is >>> >> good. IF you >>> >> > >are positive it is jumpered correctly and the >>> >> cable is good, >>> >> > >try it on another controller. If it is a >>> master >>> >> now, try it >>> >> > >as a slave on the other controller, etc. If >>> it >>> >> still is not >>> >> > >showing up in the boot up screen, it's bad. >>> If >>> >> you are >>> >> > >saying it was OK in the BIOS & boot up screen, >>> >> and you did >>> >> > >install windows from it...then what >>> brand/model >>> >> of >>> >> > >motherboard do you have? What are the drives >>> >> setup on this >>> >> > >computer? Any yellow marks in the device >>> >> manager? >>> >> > >-Clint >>> >> > > >>> >> > >God Bless Us All >>> >> > >Clint Hamilton, Owner >>> >> > >http://OrpheusComputing.com >>> >> > >sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> > >Fax: 209-882-9602 >>> >> > >TechAssist Administration >>> >> > >http://tech-assist.org >>> >> > >techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >----- Original Message ----- >>> >> > >From: "tom lee" <t8872695@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> > >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:05 PM >>> >> > >Subject: [TechAssist] Question about computer >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >Hello friends. >>> >> > >I install windows 98 for my computer . I >>> succeed >>> >> and go to >>> >> > >the process. but >>> >> > >one thing is >>> >> > >it does not have D drive. I click my computer >>> >> icon It show >>> >> > >only A,C but no >>> >> > >D,it suppose >>> >> > >CD rom drive.I use a floppy disk That I bought >>> It >>> >> help me >>> >> > >boot up and give >>> >> > >me the way >>> >> > >that I can use D drive to setup windows98 .But >>> >> after setup It >>> >> > >does not >>> >> > >include D drive. >>> >> > >Any body know how to do it help me . please. >>> TIA >>> >> > >DAND TVCR >>> >> > > >>> >> > >Help make your TechAssist online repair tips >>> >> > >database better! Submit your fixes here: >>> >> > >>> >http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips >>> >> > >To unsubscribe write to: >>> >> > >techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> > >with unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >Help make your TechAssist online repair tips >>> >> > >database better! 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