[TechAssist] Re: Philips 36H800 again

Thanks Perry, I'm going to ask him if he wants me to order a board. In the 
beginning I looked up the price of that board at TriTronics along with the 
price of the diode that Force said would fix it. He didn't want to spend 
what a board would cost so we went with the diode.

This has jogged my memory, so I don't feel I owe him anything. I DID explain 
to him that replacing the diode was a cheap shot, with fingers crossed, and 
it might not work.

BTW I did not see any solder connections that looked questionable when I 
inspected it under good magnification, but in the past I have found thru 
hole connections where the pin or wire end was hidden under good looking 
solder and the solder hadn't flowed to it, so I did it anyway.

That appears to me the same type of socket that is commonly used for 
computer memory and I've never experienced any contact problems with them in 
computers.


Russ Hoyt
Hoyt's TV
Exeter, NH


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:08 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips 36H800 again


> You are going to have to replace the SSB. No need to torture yourself any
> longer. That is the only fix from my experience. That will fix the set. 
> That
> is a very easy set to estimate without any troubleshooting. Soldering edge
> connectors and replacing diodes is not going to be a permanent fix. That 
> is
> why I quit trying to repair the SB, I mean SSB, recalls. I go into that 
> set
> giving the customer the estimate for a new SSB at the beginning, if they 
> say
> no, then I am done. No trying to fix the double-sided board. That is all 
> you
> can do. Why Phillips wants $100 for the part and another $100 dud, I don't
> know. It cost us over $200 to get the part. Some customers will approve
> about $250 for that repair, some don't. Heck, that is a 36" TV. Many will
> pay to have the SSB replaced. The repair is only about a third of what 
> they
> paid for the set. I also make the customers pay a parts deposit up front
> before I order the board so they don't stick me with the part.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hoyt's TV
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:16 PM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Philips 36H800 again
>
>
> Does anyone have anything else to suggest?
> Here's what I've done:
>
> I've replaced the diode on the SSB that Force says to replace for a dead
> set.
> Twice!
> I've resoldered the connector on the mother board.
> I've cleaned the connector and the board edge.
>
> The first time I replaced the diode the set ran several days in the shop, 
> so
> I sent it home.
> He says it ran a few hours and quit.
> He brought it back and I replaced the diode again and ran it for a day 
> then
> it quit on the 2nd day.
> I dipped into the list again and got several more suggestions, which I 
> did,
> then ran it for several days in the shop and let him take it home again.
>
> He called this afternoon to tell me it ran about a half hour for him 
> before
> quitting again.
> He is getting tired of getting someone to help him lug it up and down a
> flight of stairs and  put it up on the shelf.
> I'm getting tired of fixing something that just keeps going bad again.
>
> He wasn't willing to go for an SSB in the first place and I'm not willing 
> to
> buy one now, only to end up with the same problem.
> Right now I only have $129 that I may have to give back. I sure don't want
> to expand that to $500 that I have to give back and end up owning an SSB
> that I will never use because I will certainly never take in another one 
> of
> these sets again.
>
> I don't know what kind of deal he's willing to make for me not fixing his
> TV. He's in the auto repair business so he should be happy to just junk it
> with no refund. Usually when one of them works on something of mine that
> isn't getting fixed, they call and say: the mechanic has 2 hours on it
> already and hasn't found the problem. The labor is $120 now, do want me to
> have him keep going?
>
> Thanks
> Russ Hoyt
> Hoyt's TV
> Exeter, NH
>
>
>
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