There is no way to make it as you use it without consuming some other fuel, so it just becomes pointless. J Silverman > Yep, it was hydrogen (in the first blimps) and gasoline would have > been about as bad (if it could have been used). If it is possible > to make hydrogen while you drive there may not be any under pressure > (such as in a tank) to explode. > > > > -- > Best regards, > > Bil Green > 2001 TV VCR > Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > 760-934-2001 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 12:59:38 PM, you wrote: > > ww> Wasn't Hydrogen the gas in the first blimps?? > ww> The Hindenburg in flames comes to mind. > ww> Walter > ww> --- J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hydrogen can be used as a fuel in internal > >> combustion engines but if air is > >> the other fuel component oxides of nitrogen are > >> also produced which is > >> considered a pollutant. Hydrogen and air can be > >> used in fuel cells to > >> generate electricity but there aint any such > >> thing as an inexpensive fuel > >> cell. > >> Either way, there is very little energy in a > >> given volume of hydrogen as > >> compared to a given volume of gasoline so you > >> need a tremendous amount of it > >> and there is no way to generate hugh amounts of > >> it while you are using it > >> unless the hydrogen generator is using some other > >> fuel, like kerosene or > >> gasoline. Therefore tanks of compressed hydrogen > >> are needed and this is > >> currently being done on commercial test vehicles, > >> like busses. > >> Handling hydrogen is a major problem because it > >> is explosive and because it > >> penetrates through a lot of conventional > >> materials. It also makes metals > >> hard and brittle and subject to cracking. If > >> there were hydrogen powered > >> vehicles and refueling stations around you would > >> see some rather spectacular > >> accidents. Terrorists would not be allowed to > >> have access to hydrogen > >> powered vehicles. They would be required to use > >> fossil fuel vehicles or > >> maybe bicycles. > >> The best battery I have read about for electric > >> vehicles is the zinc-air > >> battery. Zinc metal anodes are consumed using > >> oxygen form the air. Zinc > >> oxide powder is formed and settles to the bottom > >> of the electrolyte tank. > >> You have a choice of recharging or of dumping the > >> electrolyte and zinc oxide > >> for reprocessing and reloading zinc anodes and > >> fresh electrolyte for a quick > >> getaway. > >> Jerry Silverman > >> Greentron Inc > >> 4 Newland Ave > >> Greenville SC 29609 > >> 864 232 3889 > >> Fax 271 2080 > >> mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: "greentron@xxxxxxx" > >> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:31 AM > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > >> > >> > >> > Batteries may not work well as a power source > >> for cars, but hydrogen > >> > does, and is being used in a car in the > >> Philippines. You can read > >> > about Daniel Dingle's Water Car (generates H > >> while you drive using > >> > his special hydrolysis unit) here: > >> > > >> > ww> http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=2304&catID=2 > >> > > >> > He has been interviewed by many reporters in > >> the last few years and > >> > this doesn't seem to be a scam. Here is his > >> video: > >> > > >> > ww> http://www.mysticfamilycircus.com/Pages/Community/Projects/h2oh29MB.mov > >> > (copy the entire link if broken) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Best regards, > >> > > >> > Bil Green > >> > 2001 TV VCR > >> > Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >> > 760-934-2001 > >> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> > > >> > Tuesday, March 30, 2004, 8:53:34 PM, you wrote: > >> > > >> > gan> Well, electric cars have been around for > >> over 100 years, but no one > >> has been able to come up with a good battery for > >> them in all this time, so I > >> dont see a cheap electric car in my future. > >> > gan> California mandated that 20% of the > >> vehicles sold in that state be of > >> a zero emissions type, but it never happened. You > >> cant legislate > >> technological advances. > >> > gan> J Silverman > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Yea I tend to Agree. Same thing with > >> Electric Cars. Do you think one > >> day all > >> > >> the gas Stations in the Country will close > >> down because the market gets > >> > >> flooded with Cheap electric Cars? There > >> would be a huge hit in the > >> market > >> > >> for sure , but for us as Americans we are > >> all generally lazy, and tend > >> to > >> > >> resist change - especially when its > >> Technology oriented. Another Thing > >> I > >> > >> see is the TV programming is Generally junk > >> nowadays anyway, which > >> really > >> > >> makes me wanna Keep my 27 Inch Zenith system > >> III from 1991 until the > >> CRT > >> > >> goes. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Steve Hearns > >> > >> Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > >> > >> WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > >> > >> 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US > >> Only) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: <greentron@xxxxxxx> > >> > >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> Cc: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>; > >> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:56 PM > >> > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> | That date has been pushed to the future > >> several times in the past and > >> will > >> > >> probably be pushed off well into the future. > >> Dealers are not especially > >> > >> interested in the public being well informed > >> that all those tvs sitting > >> on > >> > >> the shelf for sale wont work after a couple > >> of years. Also the > >> politicians > >> > >> that passed the laws mandating the cut-off > >> of analog tv transmission > >> are > >> > >> also not eager for the public to be aware > >> that they are taking away > >> their > >> > >> tv. > >> > >> | J Silverman > >> > >> | > >> > >> | > >> > >> | > Larry, I understand that 2006 has been > >> mandated, > >> > >> | > but HD was supposed to have been reality > >> years ago. > >> > >> | > As I understand it, NO non HD set will > >> work (this > >> > >> | > includes the HD monitors) once > >> everything is being > >> > >> | > broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD > >> converter box is > >> > >> | > used. > >> > >> | > All the box will do is extend the life > >> of the NON > >> > >> | > HD tv. > >> > >> | > It will NOT put a HD picture on the > >> screen. > >> > >> | > Now, how many $300 boxes are people > >> going to buy to > >> > >> | > put on $100 wally world tvs? > >> > >> | > Remember also that although HD is > >> digital, being > >> > >> | > digital does NOT make it HD. > >> > >> | > Walter > >> > >> | > --- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> | > > true, but! > >> > >> | > > digital tv may make these 3 year or > >> older tv > >> > >> | > > useless. > >> > >> | > > i am under the impression they wont > >> work after > >> > >> | > > 2007. > >> > >> | > > is this true? > >> > >> | > > Larry > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > Tel-Tek wrote: > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > > John; > >> > >> | > > > Most likely > >> > >> | > > > Most of us will retire or die off > >> with our > >> > >> | > > Customer base. > >> > >> | > > > Older people will hold onto their > >> Console TV's > >> > >> | > > and Stereos. If parts are > >> > >> | > > > available, they will have them > >> repaired. > >> > >> | > > > I could take the year off, but > >> December Older > >> > >> | > > Folks want their Phonographs > >> > >> | > > > working, lay on a good supply of > >> needles, some > >> > >> | > > WD40, some lube, and idler > >> > >> | > > > tires. You are good to go. Keep in > >> mind that > >> > >> | > > most are on a fixed Income, and > >> > >> | > > > keep it Kosher.;-) > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > -Ed- > >> > >> | > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > >> > >> | > > > Ontario-Canada > >> > >> | > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> | > > > From: "John at Main TV" > >> > >> | > > <maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> | > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> | > > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:12 PM > >> > >> | > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > >> Notice!!!!! > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > >>I, too, have noticed the aging of > >> the service > >> > >> | > > industry. We have 3 > >> > >> | > > >>technicians. The owner is aged 69 ( > >> and still > >> > >> | > > makes pick-ups and > >> > >> | > > >>deliveries). The second is aged 65 > >> and I am > >> > >> | > > aged 57 (the youngster). We > >> > >> | > > >>are wondering if we can hang on > >> until hi-def > >> > >> | > > becomes common. John. > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >>John Mielke > >> > >> | > > >>Main TV > >> > >> | > > >>636 main St. > >> > >> | > > >>Longmont, Co > >> > >> | > > >>phone 303 776 6955 > >> > >> | > > >>fax 303 776 0792 > >> > >> | > > >>maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> | > > >>From: "Doug Keller" > >> <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> | > > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> | > > >>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:59 AM > >> > >> | > > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** > >> Notice!!!!! > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >>>Is it just me, or is everyone on > >> this list a > >> > >> | > > "mature" (for lack of a > >> > >> | > > >>>better word) technician. Is anyone > >> on this > >> > >> | > > list under, say, 30? Is no > >> > >> | > > >>>one young even getting into this > >> business? I > >> > >> | > > will state, in my opinion, > >> > >> | > > >>>that if they DON'T get into this > >> that in > >> > >> | > > itself is a plus to their > >> > >> | > > >>>success in life. > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>>Doug Keller > >> > >> | > > >>>Wis-Kel Electronics > >> > >> | > > >>>101 Freeland Ave. > >> > >> | > > >>>Terra Alta, WV > >> > >> | > > >>>USA 26764 > >> > >> | > > >>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org > >> > >> | > > >>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, > >> because > >> > >> | > > you > >> > >> | > > >>>won't live long enough to make them > >> all > >> > >> | > > yourself" > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>>Kevin Harris wrote: > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >>>>Happy Birthday JAY (sir) > >> > >> | > > >>>>always respect my elders > >> > >> | > > >>>>(you beat me, i turn 50 in > >> october) > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > >> > >>>>>************************************************* > >> > >> | > > >>>>Kevin Harris > >> > >> | > > >>>>kharris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>>>800-638-3328 x1241 > >> > >> | > > >>>>Tritronics Inc. > >> > >> | > > >>>>Authorized parts for > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > >> > >>>Aiwa,Denon,Hitachi,JVC,NAP,RCA,Sanyo,Sony,Toshiba,Zenith > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> > >>>************************************************************************** > >> > >> * > >> > >> | > > >>******************** > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> | > > >>>> From: Doug Keller > >> > >> | > > >>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:37 > >> AM > >> > >> | > > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] **** > >> Notice!!!!! > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> Your webmaster Jay hits the big > >> 50 today! > >> > >> | > > (donations may be made to > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > the > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > >>>> "Old-Fogie Retired Techs Home, > >> Walla-Walla, > >> > >> | > > Washington) *laughs* > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> -- > >> > >> | > > >>>> Doug Keller > >> > >> | > > >>>> Wis-Kel Electronics > >> > >> | > > >>>> 101 Freeland Ave. > >> > >> | > > >>>> Terra Alta, WV > >> > >> | > > >>>> USA 26764 > >> > >> | > > >>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >>>> http://www.tech-assist.org > >> > >> | > > >>>> "Learn from the mistakes of > >> others, because > >> > >> | > > you > >> > >> | > > >>>> won't live long enough to make > >> them all > >> > >> | > > yourself" > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > >> > > >> > ww> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > -- > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > >>--- > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >>>> Lost Password: > >> > >> | > > >>>> http://www.tech-assist.org and > >> select > >> > >> | > > "Login Problems?". > >> > >> | > > >>>> Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> - > >> > >> | > > >>-- > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >>>>Lost Password: > >> > >> | > > >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and > >> select "Login > >> > >> | > > Problems?". > >> > >> | > > >>>>Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > > >> >>>>http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>>> > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> | > > >>--- > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > >>>Lost Password: > >> > >> | > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and > >> select "Login > >> > >> | > > Problems?". > >> > >> | > > >>>Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > > >> >>>http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > > >>> > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > --- > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > >>Lost Password: > >> > >> | > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org and > >> select "Login > >> > >> | > > Problems?". > >> > >> | > > >>Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > > >> >>http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > > >> > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> > > >> > ww> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> --- > >> > >> | > > > Lost Password: > >> > >> | > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and > >> select "Login > >> > >> | > > Problems?". > >> > >> | > > > Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > > > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > > > > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > -- > >> > >> | > > Schneider TV & Electronic Inc. > >> > >> | > > 5415 N. Wooster ave. > >> > >> | > > Dover, Ohio 44622 > >> > >> | > > www.geocities.com/schntv2000/ > >> > >> | > > 330-343-0768 FCC. first class > >> & Extra > >> > >> | > > class K8WLY > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > > > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> > > >> > ww> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> --- > >> > >> | > > Lost Password: > >> > >> | > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select > >> "Login > >> > >> | > > Problems?". > >> > >> | > > Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > > >> > >> | > > >> > >> | > ===== > >> > >> | > Walter Wood > >> > >> | > Future Tech Home Center > >> > >> | > 2786 Hwy. 43 N. > >> > >> | > Lawrenceburg Tn. 38464 > >> > >> | > 931-829-3337 > >> > >> | > Fax 931-829-4044 > >> > >> | > mailto:wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx > >> > >> | > > >> > >> | > __________________________________ > >> > >> | > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > >> | > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. > >> File on time. > >> > >> | > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > >> > >> | > > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> > > >> > ww> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> --- > >> > >> | > Lost Password: > >> > >> | > http://www.tech-assist.org and select > >> "Login Problems?". > >> > >> | > Email Archives: > >> > >> | > > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> | > >> > ww> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> --- > >> > >> | Lost Password: > >> > >> | http://www.tech-assist.org and select > >> "Login Problems?". > >> > >> | Email Archives: > >> > >> | > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > ww> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- > >> > >> Lost Password: > >> > >> http://www.tech-assist.org and select > >> "Login Problems?". > >> > >> Email Archives: > >> > >> > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > > >> > > >> gan> > >> > ww> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ------ > >> > gan> Lost Password: > >> > gan> http://www.tech-assist.org and select > >> "Login Problems?". > >> > gan> Email Archives: > >> > gan> > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ww> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- > >> > Lost Password: > >> > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> Problems?". > >> > Email Archives: > >> > http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> > >> > ww> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Lost Password: > >> http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> Problems?". > >> Email Archives: > >> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ww> ===== > ww> Walter Wood > ww> Future Tech Home Center > ww> 2786 Hwy. 43 N. > ww> Lawrenceburg Tn. 38464 > ww> 931-829-3337 > ww> Fax 931-829-4044 > ww> mailto:wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx > > ww> __________________________________ > ww> Do you Yahoo!? > ww> Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > ww> http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > ww> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ww> Lost Password: > ww> http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > ww> Email Archives: > ww> http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: http://www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/