Damn,...that's quite a story. At least you tried to plan your future. None of the obstacles was you fault. I blame myself for not planning ahead for retirement. I always thought there would be plenty of time for that,...but,....time flys, especially when your all wound up trying to eack out a living in this business. Now it's too late to change things. MANY of us will die with a soldering Iron in our hands. Hey,...you younger fellows take heed,...and don't let things like this happen to you. Use your Crystal balls for what they were designed for ! ;-) LLW LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Hoyt's TV <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:14 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! >As one of the older guys on the list, I can tell you, I would rather be >retired. > >Thirty seven years ago, I bought a 12 room house with two, three room >apartments that I rent out. >I kept the six room apartment to raise my family in. When the kids were >gone, >I planned to make the three upstairs bedrooms into another three room >apartment. >When I bought the house the zoning law said I could have four apartments or >three apartments with a home business (my TV shop). >I figured when I was ready to retire, the mortgage would be paid off and >with >the income from three apartments plus Social Security, I would be all set >with only taxes to pay. > >Several things went wrong with my retirement plan. > >1) The mortgage never got paid off because I had to keep re-financing the >house to make up for the dwindling TV repair income. > >2) My SS is about half what it should be, because of the low income over the >years from TV repair. I had only one year that I paid in the maximum to SS. > >3) "Kids" keep coming back like rubber balls. > >4) Last year, I went to get the permit to put in the third apartment and was >informed the voters changed the zoning law the previous year, so I can't add >the >4th apartment. > >Under my original plan I would have had no mortgage payment and ~$3000/mo. >rent coming in, plus ~$1500 social security. Total $4000/mo. income after >property taxes. Plenty to cover heat and utilities and living expenses and >go on cruises and maybe even have internet. > >Reality: The rent covers mortgage and taxes and I have $875/mo. SS which >isn't enough to cover heat, utilities and living expenses and still be able >to leave the house for even a coffee break. > >So I'm still fixing TVs and probably will have to, until I die. > >Russ Hoyt >Hoyt's TV >Exeter, NH > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:53 PM >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > > >> It's just a "sign of the times", Jerry. >> It's quite obvious to me (by the looks of the posts), that 95% of the guys >> on this list must not have hardly anything to work on these days. At >> least,....I'll admit that's how it is here in my shop. If things don't >pick >> up a little bit soon,.....we'll all be standing on street corners, holding >a >> cup, and a sign (Saying "will work for food, and shelter"). Except of >course >> this won't apply to the guys that are still in the business just for >> something to keep them busy, or for the love of it...but,....it makes me >> wonder how many of the older guys on this list, really need to stay in the >> business for the $$$. I for one still depend on it for my very exsistance. >I >> hope that's not the case for the majority of you. If it is,....we are in >BIG >> trouble,...cause I see it only getting worse,....NOT better. >> >> Sorry for the negative post,....but,....of course,...I'll keep trying. >What >> else can we do ? Time will tell. >> >> LLW >> >> LeRoy Westlund >> Westlund TV & Electronics >> 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... >> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." >> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gerald Gann <alpha21century@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:29 PM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! >> >> >> > Man! Go out of town for a long weekend and I missed the party, by >the >> look of the emailes. >> > >> >Happy 50th Jay >> > >> > I did win $1200.00 on the boat, brought home half of it. $600.00 is >> more than I would have made at the shop Monday. >> > Happy birthday Jay its all about you on that day and good luck. >> > >> >Jerry >> > >> >Alpha 21 Electronics >> > >> >Granite City, IL 62040 >> > >> > Ph. 618-452-8620 >> > >> >Fax 618-876-5157 >> >www.alpha21century@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> >larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >true, but! >> >digital tv may make these 3 year or older tv useless. >> >i am under the impression they wont work after 2007. >> >is this true? >> >Larry >> > >> > >> >Tel-Tek wrote: >> > >> >> John; >> >> Most likely >> >> Most of us will retire or die off with our Customer base. >> >> Older people will hold onto their Console TV's and Stereos. If parts >are >> >> available, they will have them repaired. >> >> I could take the year off, but December Older Folks want their >> Phonographs >> >> working, lay on a good supply of needles, some WD40, some lube, and >idler >> >> tires. You are good to go. Keep in mind that most are on a fixed >Income, >> and >> >> keep it Kosher.;-) >> >> >> >> -Ed- >> >> Tel-Tek Electronics >> >> Ontario-Canada >> >> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "John at Main TV" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:12 PM >> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I, too, have noticed the aging of the service industry. We have 3 >> >>>technicians. The owner is aged 69 ( and still makes pick-ups and >> >>>deliveries). The second is aged 65 and I am aged 57 (the youngster). We >> >>>are wondering if we can hang on until hi-def becomes common. John. >> >>> >> >>>John Mielke >> >>>Main TV >> >>>636 main St. >> >>>Longmont, Co >> >>>phone 303 776 6955 >> >>>fax 303 776 0792 >> >>>maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>From: "Doug Keller" >> >>>To: >> >>>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:59 AM >> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Is it just me, or is everyone on this list a "mature" (for lack of a >> >>>>better word) technician. Is anyone on this list under, say, 30? Is no >> >>>>one young even getting into this business? I will state, in my >opinion, >> >>>>that if they DON'T get into this that in itself is a plus to their >> >>>>success in life. >> >>>> >> >>>>Doug Keller >> >>>>Wis-Kel Electronics >> >>>>101 Freeland Ave. >> >>>>Terra Alta, WV >> >>>>USA 26764 >> >>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org >> >>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you >> >>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>Kevin Harris wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>Happy Birthday JAY (sir) >> >>>>>always respect my elders >> >>>>>(you beat me, i turn 50 in october) >> >>>>>************************************************* >> >>>>>Kevin Harris >> >>>>>kharris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>>800-638-3328 x1241 >> >>>>>Tritronics Inc. >> >>>>>Authorized parts for >> >>> >> >>>Aiwa,Denon,Hitachi,JVC,NAP,RCA,Sanyo,Sony,Toshiba,Zenith >> >>> >> >>>>************************************************************************ * >> ** >> >>>******************** >> >>> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>> From: Doug Keller >> >>>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:37 AM >> >>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] **** Notice!!!!! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your webmaster Jay hits the big 50 today! 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