As impossible as it seems I still think Mr. Dingle's Water Car should be considered. The word is that he used pulsed DC at a particular frequency, and duty cycle to generate unusually large amounts of hydrogen, while the car is running off of hydrogen. Here is a more detailed description: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=Pine.BSF.3.96.1000914101712.8437C-100000%40shell.mlode.com&rnum=51 How it works according to him, his reactor uses electricity from a 12-volt car battery to transform saltwater or ordinary tap water with salt into deuterium oxide or heavy water, which is chiefly used as a coolant for nuclear reactors. Deuterium is actually a hydrogen isotope with twice the mass of ordinary hydrogen, and heavy water is produced when the hydrogen atoms in H2O are replaced with deuterium. "The electricity from the battery splits the water into its hydrogen and oxygen components, and this hydrogen can then be used to power the car engine. Normally it takes temperatures of about 5,400 degrees Fahrenheit to generate hydrogen from water, but here I am just using an ordinary 12-volt battery," he claimed. THE ABOVE EXCERPT IS FROM THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE Subject: Car That Runs On Water. Sept. 13, 2000. Here is something about a car that only consumes water. ..................................................................... ..................................................................... From: R M Subject: Dingles water car Friends and Beloveds, Over 10 years ago along with a small group of Ramtha students in Yelm Washington--we watched a demonstration of a motor being run on water! by a local inventor--inside of his garage!! No odor--no fumes!! Why after 30 years are there no car companies or power companies producing these almost cost-less free forms of energy--and saving us 30 years of massive earth pollution? If you do not know the answer why--please read the 3 small "Handbooks For The NewParadigm!! First one is FREE..at global@xxxxxxxxxxx Or read any of the thousands of available books that truly reveal how we have been "herded" into this "mind-fix" of physical lack, of human suffering, of violence, of war--all purely for GREED by a handful of soul--less"dupes" that control gov-rnments and us masses via money, force or threat of as-asination!! When will we individually and collectively WAKE UP and say--NO MORE!! What say we change this picture? Light, love and JOY***Michael Von: Dr Bryan Nelson <brynel@xxxxxxxxx> An: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@yelmtel.com; <Undisclosed-Recipient:;@yelmtel.com;> Datum: 12 September 2000 22:05 Betreff: Dingles water car http://www.inquirer.net/issues/aug99/aug12/features/fea_main.htm August 12, 1999 Maker of water-powered car still fighting after 30 years By Joey G. Alarilla 1969 was a landmark year for a number of reasons, including the conquest of space and cyberspace. Even as that year saw Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walking on the moon, so was the Internet born when its earliest incarnation, the United St-tes Defense Department's Arpanet (Advanced Research Project Agency network), went online. In the Philippines, 1969 was also the year that a Filipino inventor claims to have started tinkering with a revolutionary concept for the automotive industry. His idea: To power cars using hydrogen derived from ordinary water. Today, 30 years later, inventor Daniel Dingel is driving around in the only water-powered car in the world, still complaining that Filipino gove-nment officials and scientists refuse to support his invention. "They keep saying that the g-vernment is pro-poor, but what they do is sell off the resources and wealth of the Philippines. The go-ernment should really support the development of technology that would help the country pay its huge foreign debt," he said. At the Inquirer parking lot last Tuesday, Dingel showed off his "concept car"- a red 16-valve Toyota Corolla with the small hydrogen reactor that he invented hooked up to its internal combustion engine (ICE). Dingel's hydrogen car has actually received media coverage since the late '80s or so, but to date his invention has not yet been patented and commercialized. Dingel attributed this to the influence of multinational companies, such as the o-l companies. A conspiracy theory worthy of the X-Files, perhaps, but if Dingel's idea is real, then the truth is way out there. How it works according to him, his reactor uses electricity from a 12-volt car battery to transform saltwater or ordinary tap water with salt into deuterium oxide or heavy water, which is chiefly used as a coolant for nuclear reactors. Deuterium is actually a hydrogen isotope with twice the mass of ordinary hydrogen, and heavy water is produced when the hydrogen atoms in H2O are replaced with deuterium. "The electricity from the battery splits the water into its hydrogen and oxygen components, and this hydrogen can then be used to power the car engine. Normally it takes temperatures of about 5,400 degrees Fahrenheit to generate hydrogen from water, but here I am just using an ordinary 12-volt battery," he claimed. Just how this kind of chemical reaction is possible using an ordinary car battery is, of course, the secret behind Dingel's invention--and the kind of claim that leads people to dismiss him as a crackpot and charlatan. In fact, while hydrogen is being touted as a viable alternative fuel in the US and other countries, these prototypes do not make use of ICEs but fuel cell engines, nor do they run on ordinary water but on liquid hydrogen. For example, DaimlerChrysler unveiled in the US in March the hydrogen-powered NECAR 4 (New Electric Car), which is based on a Mercedes-Benz A-class compact car. In these fuel cell cars, water is just a by-product of the reaction between hydrogen and oxygen ions, which produces the electricity to run the car's engine. In this sense, the fuel cell process is the reverse of Dingel's discovery. Also, Dingel claims that his reactor can work with any existing ICE-based car. Dingel said some investors from Taiwan now plan to commercialize his car and help him get an international patent. Another invention In the Philippines, Dingel also partners with Cobis Clean Cars for another invention that his hydrogen car showcases--the so-called electromagnetic fluid (EMF) treatment. While this might sound like something out of Voltes V, EMF was supposedly derived from such plants as okra, saluyot, ampalaya, langka, and water lily. This treatment is supposed to improve a car engine's performance and oil life because it produces an "air magnet" to reduce friction to practically zero. So, is this Filipino-invented hydrogen car for real, and will this idea soon drive the cars we're driving? That's the dream that Dingel has kept alive for 30 years. The Coming Energy Revolution The Free-Energy Device Handbook | The Anti-Gravity Handbook | Keely's Secrets | The Fantastic Inventions of Nikola Tesla, Fw: Re: WaterCar ! babelfish translate b.. Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:04:19 Original Message: ----------------- From: William Beaty billb@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: WaterCar ! babelfish translate Translated by http://babelfish.altavista.com The water auto of Daniel Dingle At the beginning of of 1999 became on the German television in N3 the water auto of Daniel Dingle, which is to drive only with water instead of gasoline, 3 minutes shown in a contribution. When my acquaintance told me of the water auto, I did not believe it initially. After I had looked at myself a copy of the film several times, my skepticism yielded. I gave the address of the inventor Daniel Dingle to my following acquaintance on its journey to the Philippines. Report on a journey of my acquaintance Wolfgang Czapp: In December 1999 until April 2000 I lived on the Philippines. In January 2000 I visited Daniel Dingle in Manila in the Industrial Technology development of institutes. It received me Ernesto S. Luis, PhD. it organized the meeting with Daniel Dingle, which moved forward then with his water auto. It was a 1.6i Toyota Corolla. The water auto needs no gasoline, but drives with water. It needs approximately 4 litres water on 500 km. Water is divided into hydrogen and oxygen with a voltage, which did not want to indicate Daniel Dingle exactly. This hydrogen oxygen mixture is supplied to the engine. Daniel Dingle said that the system takes up 3 ampere with 12 V from the car battery and the generator. This correspond approximately 40 Watt. With these 40 Watts the auto can achieve a rate up to 200 km/h. The idling speed amounts to 500 Upm. I smelled also at the exhaust. The exhaust gas was odorless. Came only a few water drops out. I filmed the auto as well as Mr. Dingle and Mr. Ernesto.--- one knows 4 pictures to the water auto under http://www.sline.de/homepages/keppler/wasserauto.htm look at. In the spring the water auto came several times in the Philippine television. According to a Philippine television report is start 2001 those Series production on the Philippinien begin. I experienced that also many large world-wide companies e.g. VW, which German Tuev etc. called on Dingle. Own note: I have the NDR Fernsehbericht on video cassette. Additionally contact exists to the cameraman, who likewise acknowledges the efficiency of the auto. Form your own opinion. I hope, it was from interest. William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits science projects, tesla, weird science Seattle, WA 206-781-3320 freenrg-L taoshum-L vortex-L webhead- Original Message: --------------- From: William Beaty billb@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: WaterCar ! babelfish translate Translated by <A target=_blank "http://babelfish.altavista.com/"; http://babelfish.altavista.com</A> The water auto of Daniel Dingle At the beginning of 1999 I became on the German television in N3 the water auto of Daniel Dingle, which is to drive only with water instead of gasoline, 3 minutes shown in a contribution. When my acquaintance told me of the water auto, I did not believe it initially. After I had looked at myself a copy of the film several times, my skepticism yielded. I gave the address of the inventor Daniel Dingle to my following acquaintance on its the address of the inventor Daniel Dingle to my following acquaintance on its journey to the Philippines. Report on a journey of my acquaintance Wolfgang Czapp: ============================+ Roger Cathey + Robert Cathey Research Source + rsc@xxxxxxxx + John Winston. johnfwin@xxxxxxxxx -- Best regards, Bil Green 2001 TV VCR Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 760-934-2001 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 11:01:39 AM, you wrote: JS> Hydrogen can be used as a fuel in internal combustion engines but if air is JS> the other fuel component oxides of nitrogen are also produced which is JS> considered a pollutant. Hydrogen and air can be used in fuel cells to JS> generate electricity but there aint any such thing as an inexpensive fuel JS> cell. JS> Either way, there is very little energy in a given volume of hydrogen as JS> compared to a given volume of gasoline so you need a tremendous amount of it JS> and there is no way to generate hugh amounts of it while you are using it JS> unless the hydrogen generator is using some other fuel, like kerosene or JS> gasoline. Therefore tanks of compressed hydrogen are needed and this is JS> currently being done on commercial test vehicles, like busses. JS> Handling hydrogen is a major problem because it is explosive and because it JS> penetrates through a lot of conventional materials. It also makes metals JS> hard and brittle and subject to cracking. If there were hydrogen powered JS> vehicles and refueling stations around you would see some rather spectacular JS> accidents. Terrorists would not be allowed to have access to hydrogen JS> powered vehicles. They would be required to use fossil fuel vehicles or JS> maybe bicycles. JS> The best battery I have read about for electric vehicles is the zinc-air JS> battery. Zinc metal anodes are consumed using oxygen form the air. Zinc JS> oxide powder is formed and settles to the bottom of the electrolyte tank. JS> You have a choice of recharging or of dumping the electrolyte and zinc oxide JS> for reprocessing and reloading zinc anodes and fresh electrolyte for a quick JS> getaway. JS> Jerry Silverman JS> Greentron Inc JS> 4 Newland Ave JS> Greenville SC 29609 JS> 864 232 3889 JS> Fax 271 2080 JS> mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx JS> ----- Original Message ----- JS> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> JS> To: "greentron@xxxxxxx" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> JS> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:31 AM JS> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! >> Batteries may not work well as a power source for cars, but hydrogen >> does, and is being used in a car in the Philippines. You can read >> about Daniel Dingle's Water Car (generates H while you drive using >> his special hydrolysis unit) here: >> http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=2304&catID=2 >> >> He has been interviewed by many reporters in the last few years and >> this doesn't seem to be a scam. Here is his video: >> http://www.mysticfamilycircus.com/Pages/Community/Projects/h2oh29MB.mov >> (copy the entire link if broken) >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Bil Green >> 2001 TV VCR >> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 >> 760-934-2001 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Tuesday, March 30, 2004, 8:53:34 PM, you wrote: >> >> gan> Well, electric cars have been around for over 100 years, but no one JS> has been able to come up with a good battery for them in all this time, so I JS> dont see a cheap electric car in my future. >> gan> California mandated that 20% of the vehicles sold in that state be of JS> a zero emissions type, but it never happened. You cant legislate JS> technological advances. >> gan> J Silverman >> >> >> >> Yea I tend to Agree. Same thing with Electric Cars. Do you think one JS> day all >> >> the gas Stations in the Country will close down because the market gets >> >> flooded with Cheap electric Cars? There would be a huge hit in the JS> market >> >> for sure , but for us as Americans we are all generally lazy, and tend JS> to >> >> resist change - especially when its Technology oriented. Another Thing JS> I >> >> see is the TV programming is Generally junk nowadays anyway, which JS> really >> >> makes me wanna Keep my 27 Inch Zenith system III from 1991 until the JS> CRT >> >> goes. >> >> >> >> >> >> Steve Hearns >> >> Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] >> >> WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM >> >> 1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: <greentron@xxxxxxx> >> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Cc: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:56 PM >> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> | That date has been pushed to the future several times in the past and JS> will >> >> probably be pushed off well into the future. Dealers are not especially >> >> interested in the public being well informed that all those tvs sitting JS> on >> >> the shelf for sale wont work after a couple of years. Also the JS> politicians >> >> that passed the laws mandating the cut-off of analog tv transmission JS> are >> >> also not eager for the public to be aware that they are taking away JS> their >> >> tv. >> >> | J Silverman >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | > Larry, I understand that 2006 has been mandated, >> >> | > but HD was supposed to have been reality years ago. >> >> | > As I understand it, NO non HD set will work (this >> >> | > includes the HD monitors) once everything is being >> >> | > broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD converter box is >> >> | > used. >> >> | > All the box will do is extend the life of the NON >> >> | > HD tv. >> >> | > It will NOT put a HD picture on the screen. >> >> | > Now, how many $300 boxes are people going to buy to >> >> | > put on $100 wally world tvs? >> >> | > Remember also that although HD is digital, being >> >> | > digital does NOT make it HD. >> >> | > Walter >> >> | > --- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> | > > true, but! >> >> | > > digital tv may make these 3 year or older tv >> >> | > > useless. >> >> | > > i am under the impression they wont work after >> >> | > > 2007. >> >> | > > is this true? >> >> | > > Larry >> >> | > > >> >> | > > >> >> | > > Tel-Tek wrote: >> >> | > > >> >> | > > > John; >> >> | > > > Most likely >> >> | > > > Most of us will retire or die off with our >> >> | > > Customer base. >> >> | > > > Older people will hold onto their Console TV's >> >> | > > and Stereos. 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