[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we haveonestandard ?
- From: peggs <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:56:41 -0700
Monday Night Football has been in HD for a couple of years now.
One of my Local PBS Stations is in HD....................there IS a big
difference
Peggs
At 04:54 AM 6/24/05, Christopher Barnak wrote:
>This is probably caused by the fact that there just isn't very much
>HDTV material broadcasted. The HD channel you tuned is was nothing
>but NTSC converted to digital. That's what local stations have to do
>on
>their HD channels when the original content is not HD from the start.
>True HDTV looks fantastic !!
>
>
>Christopher Barnak, CET
>Norfolk Public Schools
>Electronics Maintenance
>966 Bellmore Ave.
>Norfolk, Va. 23504
>
>Phone 757 628 3385
>Fax 757 628 3392
>cbarnak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> >>> daryls_tv@xxxxxxx 6/23/2005 2:21:13 PM >>>
>Perhaps it is the locale.
>Last month I had a RCA 53" HD in for a HV splitter. I figured it was a
>goo=
>d time=20
>to try some comparisons. I also had a 35" Sony direct view in for
>repairs.=
> The=20
>cable company here doesn't broadcast in HD. We do have off air HD
>signals.=
> Since=20
>the RCA had dual RF inputs, I tuned to the same station to have a good
>refe=
>rence to judge by. The cable signal showed a good picture (not perfect
>but=
> quite good).=20=20
>I set the other antenna input to air and tuned the HD program in. All I
>had=
> to do=20
>was switch antenna inputs for the comparison. The HD picture was not
>any b=
>etter.=20=20
>In fact, it was worse. The sound was scratchy, the picture would
>occasional=
>ly pixelate
>and it would even go to a blue screen stating "weak signal". The off
>air s=
>tation is
>in line of site that one could see the broadcasting tower. The Sony
>blew t=
>he HD set away. It had a gorgeous knock out picture both on cable and
>air.=
> This signal comparison holds typical of all of the HD sets I have had
>in =
>the shop.
>Sorry... I'm not convinced that HD is better. Ten times better? No
>way!
>Daryl
>Daryl's TV
>2402 Wyoming Ave.
>El Paso, TX 79903
>915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
>daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
>www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>onestan=
>dard ?
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:53:12 -0700
>
> >=20
> > Not stupid at all. According to Star Choice (the other satellite
> > provider here in Canada), an HDTV signal contains up to 9 times more
> > information than the NTSC signal. I am guessing that would be for
> > 1080i. Therefore 10 times better is not that much of a stretch.
>HDTV
> > also is in Dolby Digital 5.1 for superior sound (9 + 1 =3D 10 times
> > better!)
> >=20
> > Kevin Wilks
> > Kevin's TV Repair
> > Penticton BC Canada
> > kevintv@xxxxxxx
> >=20
> > 10 times better ?
> > And I thought I made stupid statements.
> > OK,...4-1/2 for to 3-1/2 against.
> > ;-)
> > LLW
> > LeRoy Westlund
> > Westlund TV & Electronics
> > 97 North Main =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
>=3DA0=
> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 "
> > I forgot,..to remember,..
> > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 to forget "
> > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hugh @ Main TV <maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:34 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> > onestandard ?
> >=20
> > Yes, HDTV is 10 times better than old NTSC. www.Longmontmaintv.com
> > Main TV - 636 Main St.
> > Longmont, Co. 80501
> > Tel.303-776-6955 Fax 303-776-0792
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:01 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> > onestandard
> > ?
> >=20
> > Don't worry about it.
> > Can't kill all of us,...or the list wouldn't survive.
> > I'm taking a poll.
> > Question being:
> > Do you think the new HDTV picture looks better, then the old NTSC
> > standard broadcast ? and : Is it worth changing over ?
> > So far it is 3 for the change over,...and 3 against.
> > Kinda surpirising to me,....I thought I was the only one,...so it
>made
> > me
> > "feel better".
> > ;-)
> > LLW
> > LeRoy Westlund
> > Westlund TV & Electronics
> > 97 North Main =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
>=3DA0=
> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 "
> > I forgot,..to remember,..
> > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 to forget "
> > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:12 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> > onestandard ?
> >=20
> > Boy, the moderators are gonna kill us for ratchet jawing like this
>on
> > their tech forum!;-)
> > I've been the worster of all! (or is it worstest?) Phil
> >=20
> > Philip Bader
> > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> > 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821
> > email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >=20
> > daryls_tv@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >=20
> > I think everyone has valid points.
> > I think things at the government level has gone arry (spelling). The
> > govern=3D3D ment was set up to be "We the people". What has gone
>wrong? If
> > the majori=3D3D ty of the people say they don't want to buy a new TV,
>they
> > shouldn't be for=3D3D ced by anyone, especially the government, to
>buy a
> > new=3D
> >=20
> > TV because of new te=3D3D chnology. I think new technology is great
>but
> > you
> > should have a choice if
> > =3D3D
> > you want to take advantage of it or just go along with what you like
>or
> > can=3D3D afford. This should be a choice not a demand. It should
>never be
> > turned
> > =3D3D
> > into a hardship.
> >=20
> > Daryl
> > Daryl's TV
> > 2402 Wyoming Ave.
> > El Paso, TX 79903
> > 915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
> > daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
> > www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
> > =3DA0standar=3D3D
> > d ?
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:48:09 -0600
> > =3D3D20
> >=20
> > I disagree.
> > I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
> > when
> > =3D3D
> > the
> > time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
> > =3DA0bett=3D3D
> > er
> > be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this country
>is
> >=20
> > =3D3D
> > too
> > weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial
>needs,
> > and
> > obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
> > accept it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road.
>The
> > dogs wi=3D3D
> > ll
> > keep um movin.
> >=20
> > LLW
> >=20
> > LeRoy Westlund
> > Westlund TV & Electronics
> > 97 North Main =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
>=3DA0=
> =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 "
> > I forgot,..to remember,..
> > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 to forget "
> > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
> > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
> > =3DA0haveone
> > standard?
> >=20
> > The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>signals.
> >=20
> > Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
>rest
> >=20
> > of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, weather
>or
> >=20
> > shopping channel.
> > Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>middleclass
> >=20
> > doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants
>to
> > come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
>guys
> >=20
> > are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
> > governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter
>boxes
> > then they better be free.
> > Al G
> >=20
> > tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >=20
> > I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
> > 640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some will
> > favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
>popular,others
> > obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>Phil
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
> > have one standard?
> >=20
> > Well, the scan rates will not change.....but You'll probably always
>see
> > 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals, Although I suspect most, if not
>all
> > TV stations will move towards 1080i,
> > ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P. So no, you'll see 4
> > standards.
> >=20
> > Damon Brunger
> > Telrad Electronics
> > Al L wrote:
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
> > Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
> > standard?
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard?
> >=20
> > I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
> > system,and only
> > one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
> >=20
> > Al Leatherman
> > 224 RT. 46
> > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > 973-361-5796
> > www.ALS-TV.NET
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