[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard ?

  • From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:59:31 -0400

The change of system was pushed by a couple of large equippment 
manufacturers with lots of lobbying money. TV stations were strongly 
opposed because it is costing them millions of dollars to upgrage their 
equippment with no increase in advertising revenue. Quite likely there 
will be some small market stations that will fold because they cannot 
afford the upgrade.

For a large part the public don't care as long as there is something on 
the screen and it talks. A few appreciate the improved quality, and 
others get it because they are told it's the thing to do and to impress 
their friends. Its kind of like stereo audio, a large percent of people 
cannot tell the difference between stereo and a mono signal on two 
speakers and cannot hear anything above 8 or 10Khz yet they go buy an 
expensive surround audio system.

Al G

J Silverman wrote:
> This is an example of change driven by the people who hope to profit from
> forcing it on the public, rather than change due to demand from the public.
> Jerry Silverman
> Greentron Inc
> 4 Newland Ave
> Greenville SC 29609
> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:53 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
> standard ?
> 
> 
> 
>>Well,...then you won't have to be one of the poor suckers that will need
> 
> to
> 
>>make the switch. Your already there. They can't all be that lucky,...and
>>many of them won't even know things of that nature even exist. If they buy
> 
> a
> 
>>new set, they won't even know what buttons to push on thier remotes to get
>>the most out of it.
>>
>>Kinda like the "PIP",....5% of them used it,...95% of them didn't even
> 
> know
> 
>>it was there. Also,...closed caption,...5% use it,....for the rest it is
>>only an anoyance. Three languages on a Menu was also a stupid thing to
>>allow. "SAP",....was completly un-necassary. Nobody uses it.
>>
>>There is no reason to switch from a system that 95% of the American
>>consumers are already satisfied with. It's crazy to keep changing things
>>just because you can. Have something good ? Stick with it,...screw the
> 
> rest
> 
>>of the world.
>>
>>LLW
>>
>>LeRoy Westlund
>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ron Miller d.b.a. Country TV <rlmbkm@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:11 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>standard ?
>>
>>
>>
>>>My 53in Panasonic rear projection crt PTV with native res of 1080i using
>>>Dish network for HD programming and also the free OTA signals BLOW NTSC
> 
> all
> 
>>>to pieces.
>>>Country TV
>>>Ron Miller
>>>Inez, TX. 77968
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:38 PM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>
>>standard
>>
>>>?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>No,...I didn't say that,...but,...since you brought it up,....I see no
>>>>need
>>>>to change the system. The picture on the NTSC sets is plenty good
> 
> enough
> 
>>>>for
>>>>the average Joe Blow.(including me). The picture on a HDTV looks kinda
>>>>phoney to me. The old system looks more "life like".
>>
>>Sometimes,...progress
>>
>>>>is not always for the better. The whole direction this country is
> 
> headed
> 
>>>>in,
>>>>is fast getting out of hand. We are headed for disaster.
>>>>
>>>>IMO,
>>>>LLW
>>>>
>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Ron Miller d.b.a. Country TV <rlmbkm@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:17 PM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>standard ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you saying you would rather see TV broadcast stay analog NTSC
>>>>
>>>>standard??
>>>>
>>>>>Country TV
>>>>>Ron Miller
>>>>>Inez, TX. 77968
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:48 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>>>>
>>>>standard
>>>>
>>>>>?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I disagree.
>>>>>>I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing day,...and
>>
>>when
>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>time comes that they are ready to cram this down our throuts,.....we
>>>>>>better
>>>>>>be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this country
>>
>>is
>>
>>>>>>too
>>>>>>weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial needs,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and will
>>>>
>>>>accept
>>>>
>>>>>>it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road. The
> 
> dogs
> 
>>>>>>will
>>>>>>keep um movin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LLW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LeRoy Westlund
>>>>>>Westlund TV & Electronics
>>>>>>97 North Main                             " I forgot,..to remember,..
>>>>>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           to forget "
>>>>>>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>>>>>mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>
>>>>haveone
>>>>
>>>>>>standard?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>>
>>signals.
>>
>>>>>>>Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and the
>>
>>rest
>>
>>>>>>>of the time to use lower res and have something like an info, weather
>>
>>or
>>
>>>>>>>shopping channel.
>>>>>>>Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>>
>>middleclass
>>
>>>>>>>doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he wants to
>>>>>>>come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the rich
>>
>>guys
>>
>>>>>>>are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly and
>>>>>>>governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are converter
> 
> boxes
> 
>>>>>>>then they better be free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Al G
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>>>>>>>>640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but some
> 
> will
> 
>>>>>>>>favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
> 
> popular,others
> 
>>>>>>>>obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will change.
>>>>>>>>Phil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>>>>>>>>have one standard?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>>>>>>>>>You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i signals,
>>>>>>>>>Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move towards
>>>>>>>>>1080i,
>>>>>>>>>ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>>>>>>>>>So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Damon Brunger
>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Al L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
> 
> standard?
> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one standard?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>system,and only
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>>>>>>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>>>>>>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>>>>>>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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