[TechAssist] Re: HDTV.

  • From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:11:21 -0500

Better than a Dirt Nap....;-)

Damon Brunger
Telrad Electronic Services
Ft Wayne, IN 46815
----- Original Message -----
From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.


| Is there anywhere to read up on this technology, I must have taken a Rip
Van
| Winkle nap.
| Al Marquardt
| ampm@xxxxxxx
| Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
| 206 W Main
| Girardville Pa. 17935
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:30 AM
| Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
|
|
| > I saw a bulletin board for broadcasters (I'll try to find it and post it
| > here).  The one guy was saying that with dynamic bandwidth allocation
they
| > were running 6 (six) 480i sub-channels!  They also ran 1080i  and a
| weather
| > radar simultaneously, which I suspect is what our local CBS affiliate
| (DT27)
| > has been doing.  From what I had read they could, before this dynamic
| > allocation, run 4 @ 480i/p or 2 @ 480 and 1 720, or 2 @ 720, or 1 at
1080.
| > Whatever, the interest is in the bitstream, as long as the total is
under
| > about 20Meg/sec.
| >
| > Wayne Vanaman
| > Omega Electronics
| > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
| > Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
| >
| > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
| >
| > 850-456-5995 voice
| > 850-458-6369 fax
| >
| >
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:14 PM
| > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
| >
| >
| > > We got Channel 15-1 SD, Chan 15-2 HD and Chan 15-3 Weather
Radar....now
| go
| > > figure that one out....I thought there was only room for 2 broadcasts
| per
| > > channel allocation.....saw it on one of the ATSC terrestrial set-top
| > boxes.
| > > I suspect tho' that SD is on 15-1 and 2 right now. But the display did
| > > indicate what was what...
| > >
| > > Damon Brunger
| > > Telrad Electronic Services
| > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:50 PM
| > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
| > >
| > >
| > > | 16x9 format can be 480p (doesn't have to be) or 720 or 1080.  When
you
| > SEE
| > > a
| > > | 1080 once you will know it.  My set does not indicate what
| > > format/resolution
| > > | it is in, but I have seen channel 9-1 and channel 9-2 in 16x9, that
| > > | precludes 1080 due to bandwidth restrictions, and it looks a world
| > better
| > > | than DVD, which leads me to conclude that those programs would be
| 720p.
| > > | Then go to another station such as 27-1 and the picture there is a
| world
| > > | better.
| > > |
| > > | I read somewhere recently that the stations now can have a "smart"
| > > | capability which moves bandwidth between sub-channels.  So 27-1
could
| be
| > > | 1080 while 27-2 is the weather radar, and if the 1080 sub-channel
| needs
| > > more
| > > | bandwidth it robs it from the weather radar (like that display is
| going
| > to
| > > | eat digits and people are going to complain about the lost
| resolution).
| > > |
| > > | Wayne Vanaman
| > > | Omega Electronics
| > > | 6904 W Fairfield Dr
| > > | Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
| > > |
| > > | Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > > | WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
| > > |
| > > | 850-456-5995 voice
| > > | 850-458-6369 fax
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | ----- Original Message -----
| > > | From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:21 PM
| > > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | > Here's another question for those more knowledgeable with this..
| > > | > We get a few HD stations..but how do you know if they are
| transmitting
| > > in
| > > | HD or standard definition?
| > > | > If it is 16x9, is it HD?
| > > | > We have one station, UPN, that is usually in 16x9, but the picture
| is
| > a
| > > | lot more grainy than the others.
| > > | > I know CBS has daytime programming in 4x3, but after 8 pm, most
| > > | programming is in 16x9..when the signal is
| > > | > there.
| > > | >
| > > | > Jeff Dougherty
| > > | > Intrepid Video TV/VCR
| > > | > 263 S Front St
| > > | > Steelton PA 17113
| > > | > fax...717-564-4952
| > > | > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
| > > | >
| > > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > > | > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:54 AM
| > > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you
tonight..why
| > did
| > > | you leave me here all alone.....
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | > Believe it or not, PBS in Fort Wayne is the only TRUE HD station.
| NBC,
| > > | CBS,
| > > | > ABC at present is Digital, but moving towards HD. I thought Fox
was
| > > | Digital,
| > > | > but not from what I've seen on the ATSC terrestial tuners I've
been
| > > | setting
| > > | > up recently.
| > > | >
| > > | > Damon Brunger
| > > | > Telrad Electronic Services
| > > | > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| > > | >
| > > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > > | > From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:33 PM
| > > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you
tonight..why
| > did
| > > | you
| > > | > leave me here all alone.....
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | > | LeRoy,
| > > | > | Then you haven't seen a true HD station. Seems, CBS transmit the
| > best
| > > HD
| > > | > programming than the others. NBC
| > > | > | a close second.
| > > | > | NBC is usually only SD.
| > > | > | Fox just came abroad and it is OK and UPN is the worse.
| > > | > | ABC, who knows? I can't get anyone there to return my phone
calls
| or
| > > | > emails.
| > > | > |
| > > | > | Jeff Dougherty
| > > | > | Intrepid Video TV/VCR
| > > | > | 263 S Front St
| > > | > | Steelton PA 17113
| > > | > | fax...717-564-4952
| > > | > | www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
| > > | > |
| > > | > | ----- Original Message -----
| > > | > | From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > | Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:51 PM
| > > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you
| tonight..why
| > > did
| > > | > you leave me here all alone.....
| > > | > |
| > > | > |
| > > | > | Actually, it is NOT worth it. IMHO.
| > > | > | The picture available on the NTSC system was good enough for
| > ANYBODY.
| > > | > | I think the HDTV picture looks a little PHONY,.. to me !,...but,
I
| > > don't
| > > | > | shop at Wal-Mart either,....so who gives a dam what I think ?
| > > | > | ;-)
| > > | > |
| > > | > | LLW
| > > | > |
| > > | > | LeRoy Westlund
| > > | > | Westlund TV & Electronics
| > > | > | 97 North Main                                "Where there's a
| > will,...
| > > | > | Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
| > > | > | Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
| > > | > | mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
| > > | > |
| > > | > | -----Original Message-----
| > > | > | From: Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > | To: TechAssist <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > | Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:13 AM
| > > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why
| did
| > > you
| > > | > | leave me here all alone.....
| > > | > |
| > > | > |
| > > | > | >Actually, 2006 is the last year that ALL stations are mandated
to
| > > | > transmit
| > > | > | >DIGITAL.....I can only guess when they will turn off the NTSC
| > > | > | >transmitters.....2008 to 2012 is the range I've heard. I've
also
| > > heard
| > > | > that
| > > | > | >each station must tranmit between BOTH styles,  the same power
| they
| > > | were
| > > | > | >transmitting beforehand.....ie: If 33 was transmitting 1
megawatt
| > of
| > > | > power,
| > > | > | >then between 33 and 36 they must maintain that output.....which
| > means
| > > | > they
| > > | > | >can split it or 40/60 it or 20/80 it or.......
| > > | > | >
| > > | > | >But you know what the most fun part of these HOO HAA
shenanigans
| > has
| > > | > been?
| > > | > | >The FACT that all of our information has NOT come from the FCC
or
| > THE
| > > | > | >MANUFACTURERs.....a little hearsay......a little theresay.
| > > | > | >Is it worth it? Ohhhhhhh yeah! Whatta picture!
| > > | > | >
| > > | > | >Damon Brunger
| > > | > | >Telrad Electronic Services
| > > | > | >Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| > > | > | >
| > > | > | > Original Message -----
| > > | > | >From: <greentron@xxxxxxx>
| > > | > | >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > | >Cc: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>;
| > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > | >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:56 PM
| > > | > | >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!!
| > > | > | >
| > > | > | >
| > > | > | >| That date has been pushed to the future several times in the
| past
| > > and
| > > | > | will
| > > | > | >probably be pushed off well into the future. Dealers are not
| > > especially
| > > | > | >interested in the public being well informed that all those tvs
| > > sitting
| > > | > on
| > > | > | >the shelf for sale wont work after a couple of years. Also the
| > > | > politicians
| > > | > | >that passed the laws mandating the cut-off of analog tv
| > transmission
| > > | are
| > > | > | >also not eager for the public to be aware that they are taking
| away
| > > | their
| > > | > | >tv.
| > > | > | >| J Silverman
| > > | > | >|
| > > | > | >|
| > > | > | >| > Larry, I understand that 2006 has been mandated,
| > > | > | >| > but HD was supposed to have been reality years ago.
| > > | > | >| > As I understand it, NO non HD set will work (this
| > > | > | >| > includes the HD monitors) once everything is being
| > > | > | >| > broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD converter box is
| > > | > | >| > used.
| > > | > | >| > All the box will do is extend the life of the NON
| > > | > | >| > HD tv.
| > > | > | >| > It will NOT put a HD picture on the screen.
| > > | > | >| > Now, how many $300 boxes are people going to buy to
| > > | > | >| > put on $100 wally world tvs?
| > > | > | >| > Remember also that although HD is digital, being
| > > | > | >| > digital does NOT make it HD.
| > > | > | >| > Walter
| > > | > | >| > --- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > > | > | >| > > true, but!
| > > | > | >| > > digital tv may make these 3 year or older tv
| > > | > | >| > > useless.
| > > | > | >| > > i am under the impression they wont work after
| > > | > | >| > > 2007.
| > > | > | >| > > is this true?
| > > | > | >| > > Larry
| > > | > | >| > >
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| > > | > | >
| > > | > | >
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| > > | >
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