Better than a Dirt Nap....;-) Damon Brunger Telrad Electronic Services Ft Wayne, IN 46815 ----- Original Message ----- From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. | Is there anywhere to read up on this technology, I must have taken a Rip Van | Winkle nap. | Al Marquardt | ampm@xxxxxxx | Al Marquardt Electronic Repair | 206 W Main | Girardville Pa. 17935 | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:30 AM | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. | | | > I saw a bulletin board for broadcasters (I'll try to find it and post it | > here). The one guy was saying that with dynamic bandwidth allocation they | > were running 6 (six) 480i sub-channels! They also ran 1080i and a | weather | > radar simultaneously, which I suspect is what our local CBS affiliate | (DT27) | > has been doing. From what I had read they could, before this dynamic | > allocation, run 4 @ 480i/p or 2 @ 480 and 1 720, or 2 @ 720, or 1 at 1080. | > Whatever, the interest is in the bitstream, as long as the total is under | > about 20Meg/sec. | > | > Wayne Vanaman | > Omega Electronics | > 6904 W Fairfield Dr | > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 | > | > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com | > | > 850-456-5995 voice | > 850-458-6369 fax | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:14 PM | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. | > | > | > > We got Channel 15-1 SD, Chan 15-2 HD and Chan 15-3 Weather Radar....now | go | > > figure that one out....I thought there was only room for 2 broadcasts | per | > > channel allocation.....saw it on one of the ATSC terrestrial set-top | > boxes. | > > I suspect tho' that SD is on 15-1 and 2 right now. But the display did | > > indicate what was what... | > > | > > Damon Brunger | > > Telrad Electronic Services | > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | > > ----- Original Message ----- | > > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:50 PM | > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. | > > | > > | > > | 16x9 format can be 480p (doesn't have to be) or 720 or 1080. When you | > SEE | > > a | > > | 1080 once you will know it. My set does not indicate what | > > format/resolution | > > | it is in, but I have seen channel 9-1 and channel 9-2 in 16x9, that | > > | precludes 1080 due to bandwidth restrictions, and it looks a world | > better | > > | than DVD, which leads me to conclude that those programs would be | 720p. | > > | Then go to another station such as 27-1 and the picture there is a | world | > > | better. | > > | | > > | I read somewhere recently that the stations now can have a "smart" | > > | capability which moves bandwidth between sub-channels. So 27-1 could | be | > > | 1080 while 27-2 is the weather radar, and if the 1080 sub-channel | needs | > > more | > > | bandwidth it robs it from the weather radar (like that display is | going | > to | > > | eat digits and people are going to complain about the lost | resolution). | > > | | > > | Wayne Vanaman | > > | Omega Electronics | > > | 6904 W Fairfield Dr | > > | Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 | > > | | > > | Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | > > | WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com | > > | | > > | 850-456-5995 voice | > > | 850-458-6369 fax | > > | | > > | | > > | ----- Original Message ----- | > > | From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:21 PM | > > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. | > > | | > > | | > > | > Here's another question for those more knowledgeable with this.. | > > | > We get a few HD stations..but how do you know if they are | transmitting | > > in | > > | HD or standard definition? | > > | > If it is 16x9, is it HD? | > > | > We have one station, UPN, that is usually in 16x9, but the picture | is | > a | > > | lot more grainy than the others. | > > | > I know CBS has daytime programming in 4x3, but after 8 pm, most | > > | programming is in 16x9..when the signal is | > > | > there. | > > | > | > > | > Jeff Dougherty | > > | > Intrepid Video TV/VCR | > > | > 263 S Front St | > > | > Steelton PA 17113 | > > | > fax...717-564-4952 | > > | > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net | > > | > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > > | > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:54 AM | > > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why | > did | > > | you leave me here all alone..... | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > Believe it or not, PBS in Fort Wayne is the only TRUE HD station. | NBC, | > > | CBS, | > > | > ABC at present is Digital, but moving towards HD. I thought Fox was | > > | Digital, | > > | > but not from what I've seen on the ATSC terrestial tuners I've been | > > | setting | > > | > up recently. | > > | > | > > | > Damon Brunger | > > | > Telrad Electronic Services | > > | > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | > > | > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > > | > From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:33 PM | > > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why | > did | > > | you | > > | > leave me here all alone..... | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | LeRoy, | > > | > | Then you haven't seen a true HD station. Seems, CBS transmit the | > best | > > HD | > > | > programming than the others. NBC | > > | > | a close second. | > > | > | NBC is usually only SD. | > > | > | Fox just came abroad and it is OK and UPN is the worse. | > > | > | ABC, who knows? I can't get anyone there to return my phone calls | or | > > | > emails. | > > | > | | > > | > | Jeff Dougherty | > > | > | Intrepid Video TV/VCR | > > | > | 263 S Front St | > > | > | Steelton PA 17113 | > > | > | fax...717-564-4952 | > > | > | www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net | > > | > | | > > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > > | > | From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > | Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:51 PM | > > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you | tonight..why | > > did | > > | > you leave me here all alone..... | > > | > | | > > | > | | > > | > | Actually, it is NOT worth it. IMHO. | > > | > | The picture available on the NTSC system was good enough for | > ANYBODY. | > > | > | I think the HDTV picture looks a little PHONY,.. to me !,...but, I | > > don't | > > | > | shop at Wal-Mart either,....so who gives a dam what I think ? | > > | > | ;-) | > > | > | | > > | > | LLW | > > | > | | > > | > | LeRoy Westlund | > > | > | Westlund TV & Electronics | > > | > | 97 North Main "Where there's a | > will,... | > > | > | Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." | > > | > | Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 | > > | > | mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx | > > | > | | > > | > | -----Original Message----- | > > | > | From: Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > | To: TechAssist <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > | Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:13 AM | > > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why | did | > > you | > > | > | leave me here all alone..... | > > | > | | > > | > | | > > | > | >Actually, 2006 is the last year that ALL stations are mandated to | > > | > transmit | > > | > | >DIGITAL.....I can only guess when they will turn off the NTSC | > > | > | >transmitters.....2008 to 2012 is the range I've heard. I've also | > > heard | > > | > that | > > | > | >each station must tranmit between BOTH styles, the same power | they | > > | were | > > | > | >transmitting beforehand.....ie: If 33 was transmitting 1 megawatt | > of | > > | > power, | > > | > | >then between 33 and 36 they must maintain that output.....which | > means | > > | > they | > > | > | >can split it or 40/60 it or 20/80 it or....... | > > | > | > | > > | > | >But you know what the most fun part of these HOO HAA shenanigans | > has | > > | > been? | > > | > | >The FACT that all of our information has NOT come from the FCC or | > THE | > > | > | >MANUFACTURERs.....a little hearsay......a little theresay. | > > | > | >Is it worth it? Ohhhhhhh yeah! Whatta picture! | > > | > | > | > > | > | >Damon Brunger | > > | > | >Telrad Electronic Services | > > | > | >Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | > > | > | > | > > | > | > Original Message ----- | > > | > | >From: <greentron@xxxxxxx> | > > | > | >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > | >Cc: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>; | > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > > | > | >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:56 PM | > > | > | >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | >| That date has been pushed to the future several times in the | past | > > and | > > | > | will | > > | > | >probably be pushed off well into the future. Dealers are not | > > especially | > > | > | >interested in the public being well informed that all those tvs | > > sitting | > > | > on | > > | > | >the shelf for sale wont work after a couple of years. Also the | > > | > politicians | > > | > | >that passed the laws mandating the cut-off of analog tv | > transmission | > > | are | > > | > | >also not eager for the public to be aware that they are taking | away | > > | their | > > | > | >tv. | > > | > | >| J Silverman | > > | > | >| | > > | > | >| | > > | > | >| > Larry, I understand that 2006 has been mandated, | > > | > | >| > but HD was supposed to have been reality years ago. | > > | > | >| > As I understand it, NO non HD set will work (this | > > | > | >| > includes the HD monitors) once everything is being | > > | > | >| > broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD converter box is | > > | > | >| > used. | > > | > | >| > All the box will do is extend the life of the NON | > > | > | >| > HD tv. | > > | > | >| > It will NOT put a HD picture on the screen. | > > | > | >| > Now, how many $300 boxes are people going to buy to | > > | > | >| > put on $100 wally world tvs? | > > | > | >| > Remember also that although HD is digital, being | > > | > | >| > digital does NOT make it HD. | > > | > | >| > Walter | > > | > | >| > --- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: | > > | > | >| > > true, but! | > > | > | >| > > digital tv may make these 3 year or older tv | > > | > | >| > > useless. | > > | > | >| > > i am under the impression they wont work after | > > | > | >| > > 2007. | > > | > | >| > > is this true? | > > | > | >| > > Larry | > > | > | >| > > | > > | > | >| > > | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | | > > | > | > > | | > > | > | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > > | > | -- | > > | > | >Lost Password: | > > | > | >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > | > | >Email Archives: | > > | > | >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | > | > | > > | > | | > > | > | | > > | > | > > | | > > | > | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > > | > --- | > > | > | Lost Password: | > > | > | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > | > | Email Archives: | > > | > | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | > | | > > | > | | > > | > | | > > | > | | > > | > | > > | | > > | > | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > > | > --- | > > | > | Lost Password: | > > | > | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > | > | Email Archives: | > > | > | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | > | | > > | > | > > | > | > > | | > > | > | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > > | --- | > > | > Lost Password: | > > | > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > | > Email Archives: | > > | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | | > > | > | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > > | --- | > > | > Lost Password: | > > | > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > | > Email Archives: | > > | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | > | > > | | > > | | > > | > | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > > --- | > > | Lost Password: | > > | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > | Email Archives: | > > | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | | > > | > > | > | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | > --- | > > Lost Password: | > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > > Email Archives: | > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > > | > | > | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | --- | > Lost Password: | > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | > Email Archives: | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | > | > | | | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- | Lost Password: | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". | Email Archives: | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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