[TechAssist] Re: HDTV.

  • From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:46:52 -0500

Is there anywhere to read up on this technology, I must have taken a Rip Van
Winkle nap.
Al Marquardt
ampm@xxxxxxx
Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
206 W Main
Girardville Pa. 17935
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:30 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.


> I saw a bulletin board for broadcasters (I'll try to find it and post it
> here).  The one guy was saying that with dynamic bandwidth allocation they
> were running 6 (six) 480i sub-channels!  They also ran 1080i  and a
weather
> radar simultaneously, which I suspect is what our local CBS affiliate
(DT27)
> has been doing.  From what I had read they could, before this dynamic
> allocation, run 4 @ 480i/p or 2 @ 480 and 1 720, or 2 @ 720, or 1 at 1080.
> Whatever, the interest is in the bitstream, as long as the total is under
> about 20Meg/sec.
>
> Wayne Vanaman
> Omega Electronics
> 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
>
> Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>
> 850-456-5995 voice
> 850-458-6369 fax
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:14 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
>
>
> > We got Channel 15-1 SD, Chan 15-2 HD and Chan 15-3 Weather Radar....now
go
> > figure that one out....I thought there was only room for 2 broadcasts
per
> > channel allocation.....saw it on one of the ATSC terrestrial set-top
> boxes.
> > I suspect tho' that SD is on 15-1 and 2 right now. But the display did
> > indicate what was what...
> >
> > Damon Brunger
> > Telrad Electronic Services
> > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:50 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
> >
> >
> > | 16x9 format can be 480p (doesn't have to be) or 720 or 1080.  When you
> SEE
> > a
> > | 1080 once you will know it.  My set does not indicate what
> > format/resolution
> > | it is in, but I have seen channel 9-1 and channel 9-2 in 16x9, that
> > | precludes 1080 due to bandwidth restrictions, and it looks a world
> better
> > | than DVD, which leads me to conclude that those programs would be
720p.
> > | Then go to another station such as 27-1 and the picture there is a
world
> > | better.
> > |
> > | I read somewhere recently that the stations now can have a "smart"
> > | capability which moves bandwidth between sub-channels.  So 27-1 could
be
> > | 1080 while 27-2 is the weather radar, and if the 1080 sub-channel
needs
> > more
> > | bandwidth it robs it from the weather radar (like that display is
going
> to
> > | eat digits and people are going to complain about the lost
resolution).
> > |
> > | Wayne Vanaman
> > | Omega Electronics
> > | 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > | Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
> > |
> > | Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > | WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > |
> > | 850-456-5995 voice
> > | 850-458-6369 fax
> > |
> > |
> > | ----- Original Message -----
> > | From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:21 PM
> > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV.
> > |
> > |
> > | > Here's another question for those more knowledgeable with this..
> > | > We get a few HD stations..but how do you know if they are
transmitting
> > in
> > | HD or standard definition?
> > | > If it is 16x9, is it HD?
> > | > We have one station, UPN, that is usually in 16x9, but the picture
is
> a
> > | lot more grainy than the others.
> > | > I know CBS has daytime programming in 4x3, but after 8 pm, most
> > | programming is in 16x9..when the signal is
> > | > there.
> > | >
> > | > Jeff Dougherty
> > | > Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > | > 263 S Front St
> > | > Steelton PA 17113
> > | > fax...717-564-4952
> > | > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > | >
> > | > ----- Original Message -----
> > | > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:54 AM
> > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why
> did
> > | you leave me here all alone.....
> > | >
> > | >
> > | > Believe it or not, PBS in Fort Wayne is the only TRUE HD station.
NBC,
> > | CBS,
> > | > ABC at present is Digital, but moving towards HD. I thought Fox was
> > | Digital,
> > | > but not from what I've seen on the ATSC terrestial tuners I've been
> > | setting
> > | > up recently.
> > | >
> > | > Damon Brunger
> > | > Telrad Electronic Services
> > | > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > | >
> > | > ----- Original Message -----
> > | > From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:33 PM
> > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why
> did
> > | you
> > | > leave me here all alone.....
> > | >
> > | >
> > | > | LeRoy,
> > | > | Then you haven't seen a true HD station. Seems, CBS transmit the
> best
> > HD
> > | > programming than the others. NBC
> > | > | a close second.
> > | > | NBC is usually only SD.
> > | > | Fox just came abroad and it is OK and UPN is the worse.
> > | > | ABC, who knows? I can't get anyone there to return my phone calls
or
> > | > emails.
> > | > |
> > | > | Jeff Dougherty
> > | > | Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > | > | 263 S Front St
> > | > | Steelton PA 17113
> > | > | fax...717-564-4952
> > | > | www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > | > |
> > | > | ----- Original Message -----
> > | > | From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > | Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:51 PM
> > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you
tonight..why
> > did
> > | > you leave me here all alone.....
> > | > |
> > | > |
> > | > | Actually, it is NOT worth it. IMHO.
> > | > | The picture available on the NTSC system was good enough for
> ANYBODY.
> > | > | I think the HDTV picture looks a little PHONY,.. to me !,...but, I
> > don't
> > | > | shop at Wal-Mart either,....so who gives a dam what I think ?
> > | > | ;-)
> > | > |
> > | > | LLW
> > | > |
> > | > | LeRoy Westlund
> > | > | Westlund TV & Electronics
> > | > | 97 North Main                                "Where there's a
> will,...
> > | > | Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
> > | > | Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
> > | > | mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> > | > |
> > | > | -----Original Message-----
> > | > | From: Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > | To: TechAssist <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > | Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:13 AM
> > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why
did
> > you
> > | > | leave me here all alone.....
> > | > |
> > | > |
> > | > | >Actually, 2006 is the last year that ALL stations are mandated to
> > | > transmit
> > | > | >DIGITAL.....I can only guess when they will turn off the NTSC
> > | > | >transmitters.....2008 to 2012 is the range I've heard. I've also
> > heard
> > | > that
> > | > | >each station must tranmit between BOTH styles,  the same power
they
> > | were
> > | > | >transmitting beforehand.....ie: If 33 was transmitting 1 megawatt
> of
> > | > power,
> > | > | >then between 33 and 36 they must maintain that output.....which
> means
> > | > they
> > | > | >can split it or 40/60 it or 20/80 it or.......
> > | > | >
> > | > | >But you know what the most fun part of these HOO HAA shenanigans
> has
> > | > been?
> > | > | >The FACT that all of our information has NOT come from the FCC or
> THE
> > | > | >MANUFACTURERs.....a little hearsay......a little theresay.
> > | > | >Is it worth it? Ohhhhhhh yeah! Whatta picture!
> > | > | >
> > | > | >Damon Brunger
> > | > | >Telrad Electronic Services
> > | > | >Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > | > | >
> > | > | > Original Message -----
> > | > | >From: <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> > | > | >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > | >Cc: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>;
> <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > | > | >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:56 PM
> > | > | >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!!
> > | > | >
> > | > | >
> > | > | >| That date has been pushed to the future several times in the
past
> > and
> > | > | will
> > | > | >probably be pushed off well into the future. Dealers are not
> > especially
> > | > | >interested in the public being well informed that all those tvs
> > sitting
> > | > on
> > | > | >the shelf for sale wont work after a couple of years. Also the
> > | > politicians
> > | > | >that passed the laws mandating the cut-off of analog tv
> transmission
> > | are
> > | > | >also not eager for the public to be aware that they are taking
away
> > | their
> > | > | >tv.
> > | > | >| J Silverman
> > | > | >|
> > | > | >|
> > | > | >| > Larry, I understand that 2006 has been mandated,
> > | > | >| > but HD was supposed to have been reality years ago.
> > | > | >| > As I understand it, NO non HD set will work (this
> > | > | >| > includes the HD monitors) once everything is being
> > | > | >| > broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD converter box is
> > | > | >| > used.
> > | > | >| > All the box will do is extend the life of the NON
> > | > | >| > HD tv.
> > | > | >| > It will NOT put a HD picture on the screen.
> > | > | >| > Now, how many $300 boxes are people going to buy to
> > | > | >| > put on $100 wally world tvs?
> > | > | >| > Remember also that although HD is digital, being
> > | > | >| > digital does NOT make it HD.
> > | > | >| > Walter
> > | > | >| > --- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > | > | >| > > true, but!
> > | > | >| > > digital tv may make these 3 year or older tv
> > | > | >| > > useless.
> > | > | >| > > i am under the impression they wont work after
> > | > | >| > > 2007.
> > | > | >| > > is this true?
> > | > | >| > > Larry
> > | > | >| > >
> > | > | >| > >
> > | > | >
> > | > | >
> > | > |
> > | >
> > |
> >
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