Is there anywhere to read up on this technology, I must have taken a Rip Van Winkle nap. Al Marquardt ampm@xxxxxxx Al Marquardt Electronic Repair 206 W Main Girardville Pa. 17935 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:30 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. > I saw a bulletin board for broadcasters (I'll try to find it and post it > here). The one guy was saying that with dynamic bandwidth allocation they > were running 6 (six) 480i sub-channels! They also ran 1080i and a weather > radar simultaneously, which I suspect is what our local CBS affiliate (DT27) > has been doing. From what I had read they could, before this dynamic > allocation, run 4 @ 480i/p or 2 @ 480 and 1 720, or 2 @ 720, or 1 at 1080. > Whatever, the interest is in the bitstream, as long as the total is under > about 20Meg/sec. > > Wayne Vanaman > Omega Electronics > 6904 W Fairfield Dr > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > 850-456-5995 voice > 850-458-6369 fax > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:14 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. > > > > We got Channel 15-1 SD, Chan 15-2 HD and Chan 15-3 Weather Radar....now go > > figure that one out....I thought there was only room for 2 broadcasts per > > channel allocation.....saw it on one of the ATSC terrestrial set-top > boxes. > > I suspect tho' that SD is on 15-1 and 2 right now. But the display did > > indicate what was what... > > > > Damon Brunger > > Telrad Electronic Services > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:50 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. > > > > > > | 16x9 format can be 480p (doesn't have to be) or 720 or 1080. When you > SEE > > a > > | 1080 once you will know it. My set does not indicate what > > format/resolution > > | it is in, but I have seen channel 9-1 and channel 9-2 in 16x9, that > > | precludes 1080 due to bandwidth restrictions, and it looks a world > better > > | than DVD, which leads me to conclude that those programs would be 720p. > > | Then go to another station such as 27-1 and the picture there is a world > > | better. > > | > > | I read somewhere recently that the stations now can have a "smart" > > | capability which moves bandwidth between sub-channels. So 27-1 could be > > | 1080 while 27-2 is the weather radar, and if the 1080 sub-channel needs > > more > > | bandwidth it robs it from the weather radar (like that display is going > to > > | eat digits and people are going to complain about the lost resolution). > > | > > | Wayne Vanaman > > | Omega Electronics > > | 6904 W Fairfield Dr > > | Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > | > > | Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > | WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > | > > | 850-456-5995 voice > > | 850-458-6369 fax > > | > > | > > | ----- Original Message ----- > > | From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:21 PM > > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. > > | > > | > > | > Here's another question for those more knowledgeable with this.. > > | > We get a few HD stations..but how do you know if they are transmitting > > in > > | HD or standard definition? > > | > If it is 16x9, is it HD? > > | > We have one station, UPN, that is usually in 16x9, but the picture is > a > > | lot more grainy than the others. > > | > I know CBS has daytime programming in 4x3, but after 8 pm, most > > | programming is in 16x9..when the signal is > > | > there. > > | > > > | > Jeff Dougherty > > | > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > | > 263 S Front St > > | > Steelton PA 17113 > > | > fax...717-564-4952 > > | > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > | > > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > > | > From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:54 AM > > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why > did > > | you leave me here all alone..... > > | > > > | > > > | > Believe it or not, PBS in Fort Wayne is the only TRUE HD station. NBC, > > | CBS, > > | > ABC at present is Digital, but moving towards HD. I thought Fox was > > | Digital, > > | > but not from what I've seen on the ATSC terrestial tuners I've been > > | setting > > | > up recently. > > | > > > | > Damon Brunger > > | > Telrad Electronic Services > > | > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > | > > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > > | > From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:33 PM > > | > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why > did > > | you > > | > leave me here all alone..... > > | > > > | > > > | > | LeRoy, > > | > | Then you haven't seen a true HD station. Seems, CBS transmit the > best > > HD > > | > programming than the others. NBC > > | > | a close second. > > | > | NBC is usually only SD. > > | > | Fox just came abroad and it is OK and UPN is the worse. > > | > | ABC, who knows? I can't get anyone there to return my phone calls or > > | > emails. > > | > | > > | > | Jeff Dougherty > > | > | Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > | > | 263 S Front St > > | > | Steelton PA 17113 > > | > | fax...717-564-4952 > > | > | www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > | > | > > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > > | > | From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx> > > | > | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > | Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:51 PM > > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why > > did > > | > you leave me here all alone..... > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | Actually, it is NOT worth it. IMHO. > > | > | The picture available on the NTSC system was good enough for > ANYBODY. > > | > | I think the HDTV picture looks a little PHONY,.. to me !,...but, I > > don't > > | > | shop at Wal-Mart either,....so who gives a dam what I think ? > > | > | ;-) > > | > | > > | > | LLW > > | > | > > | > | LeRoy Westlund > > | > | Westlund TV & Electronics > > | > | 97 North Main "Where there's a > will,... > > | > | Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > > | > | Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > | > | mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx > > | > | > > | > | -----Original Message----- > > | > | From: Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > | To: TechAssist <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > | Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:13 AM > > | > | Subject: [TechAssist] HDTV. Where O' Where are you tonight..why did > > you > > | > | leave me here all alone..... > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | >Actually, 2006 is the last year that ALL stations are mandated to > > | > transmit > > | > | >DIGITAL.....I can only guess when they will turn off the NTSC > > | > | >transmitters.....2008 to 2012 is the range I've heard. I've also > > heard > > | > that > > | > | >each station must tranmit between BOTH styles, the same power they > > | were > > | > | >transmitting beforehand.....ie: If 33 was transmitting 1 megawatt > of > > | > power, > > | > | >then between 33 and 36 they must maintain that output.....which > means > > | > they > > | > | >can split it or 40/60 it or 20/80 it or....... > > | > | > > > | > | >But you know what the most fun part of these HOO HAA shenanigans > has > > | > been? > > | > | >The FACT that all of our information has NOT come from the FCC or > THE > > | > | >MANUFACTURERs.....a little hearsay......a little theresay. > > | > | >Is it worth it? Ohhhhhhh yeah! Whatta picture! > > | > | > > > | > | >Damon Brunger > > | > | >Telrad Electronic Services > > | > | >Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > | > | > > > | > | > Original Message ----- > > | > | >From: <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > | > | >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > | >Cc: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>; > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > | > | >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:56 PM > > | > | >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: **** Notice!!!!! > > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | >| That date has been pushed to the future several times in the past > > and > > | > | will > > | > | >probably be pushed off well into the future. Dealers are not > > especially > > | > | >interested in the public being well informed that all those tvs > > sitting > > | > on > > | > | >the shelf for sale wont work after a couple of years. Also the > > | > politicians > > | > | >that passed the laws mandating the cut-off of analog tv > transmission > > | are > > | > | >also not eager for the public to be aware that they are taking away > > | their > > | > | >tv. > > | > | >| J Silverman > > | > | >| > > | > | >| > > | > | >| > Larry, I understand that 2006 has been mandated, > > | > | >| > but HD was supposed to have been reality years ago. > > | > | >| > As I understand it, NO non HD set will work (this > > | > | >| > includes the HD monitors) once everything is being > > | > | >| > broadcast in HD, EXCEPT that an HD converter box is > > | > | >| > used. > > | > | >| > All the box will do is extend the life of the NON > > | > | >| > HD tv. > > | > | >| > It will NOT put a HD picture on the screen. > > | > | >| > Now, how many $300 boxes are people going to buy to > > | > | >| > put on $100 wally world tvs? > > | > | >| > Remember also that although HD is digital, being > > | > | >| > digital does NOT make it HD. > > | > | >| > Walter > > | > | >| > --- larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > | > | >| > > true, but! > > | > | >| > > digital tv may make these 3 year or older tv > > | > | >| > > useless. > > | > | >| > > i am under the impression they wont work after > > | > | >| > > 2007. > > | > | >| > > is this true? > > | > | >| > > Larry > > | > | >| > > > > | > | >| > > > > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > > | > > > | > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | > | -- > > | > | >Lost Password: > > | > | >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > | > | >Email Archives: > > | > | >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > | > | > > > | > | > > | > | > > | > > > | > > > | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | > --- > > | > | Lost Password: > > | > | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > | > | Email Archives: > > | > | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > > > | > > > | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | > --- > > | > | Lost Password: > > | > | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > | > | Email Archives: > > | > | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > | > | > > | > > > | > > > | > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | --- > > | > Lost Password: > > | > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > | > Email Archives: > > | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | --- > > | > Lost Password: > > | > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > | > Email Archives: > > | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > | > > > | > > | > > > | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > | Lost Password: > > | http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > | Email Archives: > > | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > | > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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