Good point Dennis , using the RF alignment procedure may very well identify the actual circuit within the tuner causing the problem that I forgot the fix to. Damon Brunger damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Telrad Electronic Services Ft Wayne, IN 46815 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Viereck" <wa6ati@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: ctc185a5 chassis > > I would probably agree with Damons ideas that Alignment might not be the "Silver > Bullet". Check the alignment first by checking all channel groups. They should > have the same sensitivity on all channels. Adjust the output of you generator > for a signal level that gives you a partial snow picture. > > But if someone swapped the EEPROM in it life and never aligned it, you will have > to. You can tell this happened because all the values are 31. Or if the EEPROM > was stuffed with alignment data from another CTC185, you will still have to > align it anyway. > > Dennis Viereck > > Damon wrote: > > > Doggone it Al, > > I HAVE SEEN YOUR PROBLEM....... > > But I don't remember the fix..... > > I know what it isn't..... > > Alignment is not it > > > > Leaky bandswitching transistors??? Flaky Mixer/If Ic??? > > Leaky varactor diode?? > > Like sands through the hourglass, so are the tips in our lives.... > > > > I gotta find R Vogelpohl's E-mail address....he'd know this. > > > > Damon Brunger > > damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Telrad Electronic Services > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <HSWAD@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:15 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: ctc185a5 chassis > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/15/01 1:21:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, ampm@xxxxxxx > > > writes: > > > > > > << : ctc185a5 chassis > > > Date: 11/15/01 1:21:00 PM Eastern Standard Time > > > From: ampm@xxxxxxx (albert marquardt) > > > Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Reply-to: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > jeff, haven't done an alignment yet the instructions say anntenuate the > > > signal properly. what exactly are they talking about as properly.call me > > > dumb but i never got into anything like this before. i have sencore > > > equipment vg91.can vary signal but what are signal levels supposed to be. > > > thanks > > > al marquardt > > > ampm@xxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Shoreline Electronics <jstielau@xxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:19 AM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: ctc185a5 chassis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tuner alignments may have gotten corrupted for that area......you > > may > > > > need to do an alignment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Stielau > > > > Shoreline Electronics Repair > > > > 125 Beechtree Lane > > > > Westbrook,CT 06498 > > > > 860-399-1861 Voice > > > > 860-664-3535 Fax > > > > jstielau@xxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "albert marquardt" <ampm@xxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:14 AM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: ctc185a5 chassis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tryingm this one more time read below > > > > > al marquardt > > > > > ampm@xxxxxxx > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: albert marquardt <ampm@xxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:21 AM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Fw: ctc185a5 chassis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > al > > problem being assoctiated whit tuner wrap problem. haven't > > > heard > > > > of > > > > > only 4 > > > > > > > channels being affected. thanks > > > > > > > al marquardtmarquardt > > > > > > ampm@xxxxxxx > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: albert marquardt <ampm@xxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:53 PM > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] ctc185a5 chassis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not looked at yet but here's the complaint. ch 40 nothing ch 41 > > > works > > > > > once > > > > > > > in a while. 42ok when coming back from 43.ch 39 lines in picture. > > oh > > > > ch > > > > > 41 > > > > > > > has a motor boat sound i heard over the phone. did anyone hear of > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > ampm@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > > > > > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > > > > > > > database better! 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Hollis > > > ***************************************** > > > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > > > database better! Submit your fixes here: > > > http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > > ***************************************** > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE write to: > > > techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > ***************************************** > > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > > database better! Submit your fixes here: > > http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips > > ***************************************** > > To UNSUBSCRIBE write to: > > techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ***************************************** > Help make your TechAssist online repair tips > database better! 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