[TechAssist] Re: Fw: computer technique for non Gurus
- From: jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 01:41:52 -0400
I am going to ad just one more thing. I tried this today before I decided
to comment. I used my older version of ghost to backup to a CD-RW, but
there is a catch (at least one). I have multiple hard drives in my system,
and I can select which one is bootable in the BIOS. You can back up the
drive you did not boot from. Most of us have a "small" 200 Meg or so drive
(paperweight) laying around which seems too small to be useful. If your
bios supports booting from the "D" drive, you can put a minimal Win95
system on one of these (always go into the program directory and delete the
online services directory on these borderline systems). Install the Burner
software on it and boot it instead of the drive you wish to archive. I am
iffy about doing this with a CD-r because of the timing concerns, but a
rewritable seems to do ok ( they are only about 600 meg each with their
overhead, and are slower than a CD-R). Just remember to have what you need
initialized before starting.
This is cumbersome, but does seem to work. I have not tried to restore the
image I created, so I will limit my language to "seem".
Restoration will also have to be done under Windows unless you can find a
UDEF reader for DOS ( I have not ).
Mike Goins jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx
At 11:06 AM 10/1/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>The older versions will do the networking but not the image to cd-burnner,
>and you are not able to put an image to the same drive at all.
>Dave ( you should be able to find a low cost copy on E-Bay, I think I
>bought mine for $20 and that was the whole version of Norton system works
>2001.
>
>Dave
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>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:03 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: computer technique for non Gurus
>
>
>>
>> Dave or anyone, do you know if older versions of Ghost will
>> do this to at least some extent? I have some, but no manuals
>> for them.
>> -Clint
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave" <dazevedo4@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:31 AM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: computer technique for non
>> Gurus
>>
>>
>>
>> Get Norton Ghost ver 2001 or newer it will allow you to make
>> an image of
>> your hard drive directly to your cd-burner it will also span
>> cd if need be.
>> It works on networks also.
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: <jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:14 AM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: computer technique for non
>> Gurus
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > I don't have a second hard drive. Can I copy an
>> > image of my system to a directory on the same
>> > drive and then burn a copy onto a CD?
>> >
>> > Can you please tell me which folders or files
>> > need to be included? I use Fix-It Utilities 4.0
>> > to save all the critical files each time I install
>> > a program. This includes:
>> >
>> > registry files config.sys autoexec.bat
>> > system.ini win.ini protocol.ini command.com
>> >
>> > I suppose that I would really need to have a copy
>> > of Windows\System. The program System Safe
>> > Gold is supposed to do this and then have the
>> > copy available for restoring when you boot up
>> > with a rescue disk. I have not been able to get
>> > it to work on two computers (WIn98 & WinME).
>> >
>> > I have not tried an older version or the retail
>> > version of System Safe Gold. One of them
>> > must work! Seems this may be the ultimate
>> > solution for some of us.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bil
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <jmgoins.tn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:31 PM
>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: computer technique for non
>> > Gurus
>> >
>> >
>> > > I have fought losing battles with Windows more often than
>> > I care to talk
>> > > about. Really useful documentation is scarce or
>> > nonexistant (at least in my
>> > > case), so I can only offer guesses from observed
>> behavior.
>> > When you install
>> > > drivers, it seems to act like if drivers exist, that it
>> > doesn't actually
>> > > replace all the existing files even though the screen
>> > messages implies that
>> > > it does. It seems to work better if you use newer
>> (updated
>> > or more current)
>> > > drivers, so the date stamps may be involved.
>> > > Sometimes going into the system icon on the control
>> panel
>> > , and deleting a
>> > > device, and letting it reinstall on the next startup
>> cycle
>> > works, and
>> > > sometimes it does not.
>> > > The PCI bridge drivers ( some of the proprietary systems
>> > like Commpaq
>> > > Deskpros need these loaded from the driver disks or from
>> > downloaded files)
>> > > are important, as until these are loaded the OS will not
>> > be able to
>> > > identify a lot of on-board and PCI preipherals.
>> > >
>> > > The point of all this is a recommendation that you use
>> > Ghost or something
>> > > similar (if you have it) to copy an image of your system
>> > to another
>> > > partition, or hard disk now that it is working, ( several
>> > images in
>> > > different stages of installation are useful.) and burn a
>> > copy to a cd (or
>> > > cd's by using the spanning option when creating your
>> > image, if your image
>> > > is too lareg to fit one cd).
>> > > I do not claim to be a Guru, although I have done this
>> > for a job.
>> > >
>> > > Mike Goins jmgoins@xxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > At 10:59 PM 9/30/01 -0400, you wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Subject: computer technique for non Gurus
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> HP Vectra VE, customer screwed audio, would not go
>> back
>> > on with its own
>> > > >> discs or plug and pray!
>> > > >> Remember a "guru" suggested removing all the boards
>> > except simple vga card
>> > > >> and re-installing win98,with updates. I did this after
>> > de frag and disc
>> > > >> scan.
>> > > >> I then installed the whole cd that came with the
>> > sound card BEFORE
>> > > >> restarting computer.I even installed all the "extras".
>> > > >> I shut down the computer, installed the sound card,
>> > and fired up the
>> > > >> puter. Audio was perfect.I figure their kids hit the
>> > wrong keys(games up
>> > > >the
>> > > >> gazoo) and deleted
>> > > >> part of the audio drivers (volume control gone) and
>> > win98 fought the
>> > > >> drivers. They also had a fancy video accelerator that
>> I
>> > will re install
>> > > >> tomorrow.
>> > > >> I worked on this computer on and off for weeks,no
>> > audio, so I am
>> > > >happy
>> > > >> this worked. The gurus may feel this is obvious, but
>> it
>> > wasn't to me. Hope
>> > > >> this helps somebody.
>> > > >> Any "gurus" kind enough to explain the theory on
>> > this.I would
>> > > >appreciate.
>> > > >> al
>> > > >>
>> > > >> May God give us strength
>> > > >> Al's TV
>> > > >> 224 Rt. 46
>> > > >> Mine Hill, NJ. 07803
>> > > >> 973-361-5796
>> > > >> alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
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