[TechAssist] Re: Counterfeit Semiconductors

Amen
Max

----- Original Message -----
From: "larry" <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Counterfeit Semiconductors


> admit it , it is our lives , we love it.
> lol
> Larry
>
>
> Glenn Larkman wrote:
> >
> > Electronica...303 322-3037/ 1 800 722 5578.
> > BTW, What are you doing there at 1 in the morning???
> > I thought I was the only one stupid enough to live at my shop!
> >
> > Glenn Larkman
> > Audiotech
> > 256 Nth Hwy 101
> > ENCINITAS CA 92024
> > 760 944 9048
> > FAX 944 0345
> > mail to"mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > "www.audiotech.net"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Glenn Larkman" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:09 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Counterfeit Semiconductors
> >
> > BTW, do you have the phone no. for Electronica? Apparently no web
> > site.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >  Bil Green
> >  2001 TV VCR
> >  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
> >  760-934-2001                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 9:57:38 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > GL> Bil and all,
> >
> > GL> I feel compelled to respond to your comments about HBE.
> > GL> I have been buying from them for many  years, and still continue to
do
> > so,
> > GL> but I'm careful what I buy from them.
> > GL> IC's, eg, LA,TA,UPC series etc are fine from them...never had a bad
one.
> > GL> I DONT buy HOT's or regulators however as I got tired of recalls on
> > roadcall
> > GL> sets for the bad generics I got sent.
> > GL> Getting them to replace the bad ones with good took a number of
calls
> > and a
> > GL> deal of my time. Way more trouble than it should have been.
> > GL> Years ago they shipped me a pricey Mitsubishi replacement Head,Asti,
> > that
> > GL> had a broken head chip.
> > GL> I had to eat that one as they wouldnt hear that it came that way. It
> > GL> surprised me as I was doing a lot of business with them back then.
> > GL> As a result they have lost a substantial amount of business from me.
> > GL> To conclude, they are good for a lot of the standard series of IC's,
> > ship
> > GL> promptly and are competitively priced, but thats all I get from them
> > these
> > GL> days. For the HOT's,regulators and convergence IC's I use
Electronica or
> > B+D
> > GL> Enterprises. That way I know I'm getting a quality product for sure.
> > GL> All it takes is one recall to a housecall and youv'e lost more than
you
> > can
> > GL> recoup by risking the cheaper prices they have for those items.
> >
> > GL> Glenn Larkman
> > GL> Audiotech
> > GL> 256 Nth Hwy 101
> > GL> ENCINITAS CA 92024
> > GL> 760 944 9048
> > GL> FAX 944 0345
> > GL> mail to"mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > GL> "www.audiotech.net"
> > GL> ----- Original Message -----
> > GL> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > GL> To: "LeRoy Westlund" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > GL> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:43 PM
> > GL> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Counterfeit Semiconductors
> >
> > GL> Hi LeRoy,
> >
> > GL> You may want to try HB Electronics (in LA, CA). They have the best
> > GL> generic semis. They also operate a TV shop. Have had very few
> > GL> parts blow up on me. I sometimes call their TV tech to ask about
> > GL> the reliability of a replacement part.
> >
> > GL> --
> > GL> Best regards,
> >
> > GL>  Bil Green
> > GL>  2001 TV VCR
> > GL>  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
> > GL>  760-934-2001
mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > GL> Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 9:43:52 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > LW>> Same thing happened to me, with them 2 Transistors.(2SA1302, and
> > GL> 2SC3231).
> > LW>> I used them in TWO different Pioneer amps. BOTH of them blowed up,
and
> > LW>> caused additional problems in the output ckts.
> > LW>> Mine was in the SK series package. I know better then to use
> > SKs,...but,
> > LW>> that's all I could get my hands on at the time. I STILL don't know
> > where
> > GL> to
> > LW>> get reliable replacements for them. Can't trust anybody, anymore.
> > LW>> Distributors won't listen. It goes in one ear, and out the other.
> >
> > LW>> LLW
> >
> > LW>> LeRoy Westlund
> > LW>> Westlund TV & Electronics        " Walk tall,...Walk straight
> > LW>> 93 North Main                                   and look the world
> > LW>> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087                 right in the eye "
> > LW>> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
> > LW>> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > LW>> -----Original Message-----
> > LW>> From: Thomas Woodward <thomas.woodward@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > LW>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > LW>> Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:55 AM
> > LW>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Counterfeit Semiconductors
> >
> > >>>Hi Doug
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks for the info
> > >>>It all makes sense now
> > >>>I got a couple of the 2sa1302's and the 3281 's from a reputable
> > >>>distributor
> > >>>They looked a little funny .
> > >>>Then they sent the amp into never never land
> > >>>You know It just pisses you off ..
> > >>>I ended up not fixing the amp because the cust didn't want to spend
any
> > >>>more.
> > >>>It took a profitable 30 min repair and made it into a loosing
proposition
> > GL> .
> > >>>Just venting
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>Tom
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Doug Keller wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Here is an article that I found very interesting:
> > >>>>http://sound.westhost.com/counterfeit.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>Thomas S. Woodward
> > >>>Sr. Multimedia Support Technician
> > >>>Master tech 09165
> > >>>Simmons College
> > >>>300 The Fenway
> > >>>Boston Ma. 02115
> > >>>617-521-2764
> > >>>617-893-9226 (Cell)
> > >>>mailto:woodwart@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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