[TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
- From: Gary McCartney <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:44:14 -0400
An OEM version has no retail box, just a thin booklet and the CD plus
the product key. OEM is meant to be sold to system builders rather than
directly to the public. Also, with OEM software, the manufacturer of the
software relinquishes the responsibility of waarranty or technical
support, by handing those over to the system builder. According to Ebay
rules, someone selling an OEM software must also include a piece of
hardware to go along with it. Strange how they don't care if the
hardware works or not. The hardware is supposed to be something that
installs inside the computer such as RAM or a hard drive or motherboard
but not an external peripheral such as a mouse or a USB cable.
Gary McCartney
McCartney Electronics
Guelph Ontario Canada
Est. 1984
email: gary (at) number63.ca
Jerome Silverman wrote:
>
> If there is no difference why do the OEM versions sell on eBay for less
> than the standard version? I was assuming that the bidders knew what they
> were bidding on, which isnt always the case.
> I bid on a stepping motor driver card for something I am building. When the
> bidding got over $70 I dropped out. The "winner" got the card for $110. Then
> I got an email from the seller. He has a cyberstore on eBay and sells the
> card to anyone for $99.
> Jerry Silverman
> Greentron Inc
> 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
> 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
> greentron@xxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:05 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
>
> > I've bought about 4 Windows XP Homes (OEM version) on Ebay. They all
> > were sealed and had the product key on the back of the plastic wrapping.
> > No problem installing or activating the software. The only problem I had
> > was one of these turned out to be meant for Gateway computer only. It
> > had "Gateway" printed on the CD, otherwise it was the same software on
> > the disc and again, no problem installing or activating the software. I
> > wasn't happy about the Gateway label though because it didn't look good
> > selling a computer not Gateway brand with a Gateway authorized CD.
> > Luckily, my friend bought the computer so no big deal. The ebay ad did
> > not signify that there was anything out of the ordinary with the disc
> > and even the photo was that of a standard XP Home package. I gave the
> > seller a neutral feedback for not revealing that about the item.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary McCartney
> >
> > McCartney Electronics
> > Guelph Ontario Canada
> > Est. 1984
> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerome Silverman wrote:
> > >
> > > About a year ago when all this came up I went to the Microsoft site to
> check
> > > Specs, fine print, prices. XP Home was about $200 US, XP Pro was about
> $400,
> > > including a license to install on one computer. The OEM version comes
> > > without a license and is intended for people who assemble computers and
> buy
> > > the license in bulk. On eBay and other sites you see all sorts of combos
> and
> > > prices but the only one that does you any good is one in a sealed
> package
> > > with the product ID number. If it has been installed and registered you
> may
> > > have a problem with Microsoft when you register it again. If you buy an
> OEM
> > > version you will also have to buy a license to register it.
> > > Jerry Silverman
> > > Greentron Inc
> > > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
> > > 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
> > > greentron@xxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:31 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > >
> > > > $329?! XP Pro is only $150 or so (US) for the OEM version (same
> > > > as retail except that it won't upgrade another operating system).
> > > > You do have to shop around (such as using pricewatch.com) to
> > > > get good prices.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Bil Green
> > > > PC 1000
> > > > Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
> > > > 760-924-1000
> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:05:51 AM, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TTE> $329 for XP Pro.
> > > >
> > > > TTE> -Ed-
> > > > TTE> Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > TTE> Ontario-Canada
> > > >
> > > > TTE> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > TTE> Ask me about the Tech Repair CD.
> > > > TTE> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > TTE> From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> > > > TTE> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > TTE> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM
> > > > TTE> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >> What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid $79 US on
> > > eBay.
> > > > >> Jerry Silverman
> > > > >> Greentron Inc
> > > > >> 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
> > > > >> 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
> > > > >> greentron@xxxxxxx
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM
> > > > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your effort to,
> if
> > > you
> > > > >> have
> > > > >> > an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home installed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -Ed-
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > >> > Ontario-Canada
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
> > > > >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM
> > > > >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal operations'
> > > message
> > > > >> > > every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer keeps
> working
> > > > >> > > fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% stable? Other people
> > > have
> > > > >> > > complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is working
> for
> > > me
> > > > TTE> to
> > > > >> > > just keep using it. What do you think?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Kevin Wilks
> > > > >> > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> > > > >> > > Penticton BC Canada
> > > > >> > > kevintv@xxxxxxx
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
> Lessard
> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM
> > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin? Upgrade to
> XP.
> > > No
> > > > >> > > more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can close down a
> > > crash
> > > > >> > > application.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > David Lessard
> > > > >> > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin
> > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM
> > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal
> operations
> > > and
> > > > >> > > will be shut down.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I hate them because I have high speed cable internet and a 1
> gig
> > > CPU,
> > > > >> > > but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like I am
> back
> > > on
> > > > >> > > dial-up.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Any more reasons?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Kevin Wilks
> > > > >> > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> > > > >> > > Penticton BC Canada
> > > > >> > > kevintv@xxxxxxx
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
> Lessard
> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM
> > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Kevin,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers are my
> > > > >> > > friend...everything should work just fine now...:-)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > David Lessard
> > > > >> > > Alexandria, Ontario
> > > > >> > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tel-Tek
> > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM
> > > > >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Kevin;
> > > > >> > > If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of odd
> things
> > > for
> > > > >> > > you.;-)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -Ed-
> > > > >> > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > >> > > Ontario-Canada
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
> > > > >> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM
> > > > >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > I hate computers all the time!
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Kevin Wilks
> > > > >> > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> > > > >> > > > Penticton BC Canada
> > > > >> > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > >> > > gulftech@xxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM
> > > > >> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Jim,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I have done that. That program is gone, but it came with
> > > add-ons,
> > > > >> > > that
> > > > >> > > > appear to be the problem. I need to know what wcpsvsu is.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Sometimes, I hate computers!
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Ken Smith
> > > > >> > > > Gulf Technical Services
> > > > >> > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > >> > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > > > >> > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers
> > > <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >> > > > writes:
> > > > >> > > > > Try uninstalling the time check program in windows control
> > > panel
> > > > >> > > > > add/remove programs.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > TTE>
> > > ************************************************************************
> > > > >> > > > *
> > > > >> > > > ******************************************
> > > > >> > > > > Since 1972
> > > > >> > > > > Jim Myers
> > > > >> > > > > Telrad Electronics
> > > > >> > > > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do. It was
> > > "Time
> > > > >> > > > > Check" or
> > > > >> > > > > > something like that. Since then, my computer has been
> > > squirley.
> > > > >> > > > > I wish
> > > > >> > > > > > I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I
> would
> > > have
> > > > TTE> to
> > > > >> > > > > > restart and then fool with things to get my selected
> programs
> > > to
> > > > >> > > > > appear
> > > > >> > > > > > on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all the icons on
> my
> > > > >> > > screen
> > > > >> > > > > > disappear.
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > I am able to use the computer, but get the message
> "wcpsvsu
> > > not
> > > > >> > > > > > responding." Can someone tell me what that is, and a
> remedy
> > > for
> > > > >> > > > > it?
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > TIA,
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Ken Smith
> > > > >> > > > > > Gulf Technical Services
> > > > >> > > > > > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > >> > > > > > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > > > >> > > > > > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
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