No cigars Albert! From what I see in this thing, it has at least 3 crystals. Two on the main board and one in the tuner. No trimmers on the main board. The one closest to the Micro has a 10,000 The other has 4,5000 stamped on it. I have replaced the 4,5000 which I robed out of a known good radio. No change. I can not come up with a replacement for 10,000 crystal, and I think, it being the closest to the micro, is probably the one I need. I will have to find a source for it. Any ideas? Ty Tiberius Kraemer BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS 3312 Silverton Rd. NE Salem, Oregon Phone: 503 391 1491 Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of albert walfield Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:20 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Chrysler Car radio display problems. Part No: P4704302 Ty change out your crystal and or shift your trimmer by crystal . let me know if this solves problem Albert Walfield Albert Walfield's Electronics 28 Mulock Rd. RR#3 Bridgewater Nova Scotia CANADA B4V 2W2 Phone/Fax 902 543-9831 Email : albertwalfield@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Techassist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Chrysler Car radio display problems. Part No: P4704302 > I am attempting to isolate a display problem in this Chrysler car radio. > Specifically, it is a Chrysler Part N: P4704302, Issue 1, Date Code 2215, > Supplier 18629 > > Of course, no schematic, and to be honest, I have no clue as to where to > start. > When first powered up the display is dead. Turning the unit on, one can see > the lights in the Tone Controls come on(No Radio Function). > After about 4 minutes, some random segments of the display turn on and off > at full brightness (No Radio Function). About 2 minutes later 00:00 turns > on. During this time, pushing any button does not affect the display, except > the ON/OFF will turn the display off, whit nothing displayed. > About 8 minutes into this sequence, 12:00 turns on (With the unit turned on, > indicated by the tone control lights.) Buttons still have no affect. about > 10 minutes into this test, the buttons and display will start working > normally (Radio function is motor boating slowly and can not tune stations). > Turning the unit off, the time will display, turning it back on, all > functions are normal Including Radio. The above description is general. > Sometimes during this warm-up period the radio will actually turn off, and I > cannot turn it back on for an extended period. > Problem is that customer reports that randomly the unit will fail in the > above described mode, although the power was not interrupted. > Also noted that when power is interrupted for a short time, it has no > adverse affect. Disconnect the power for about 5 minutes, the above problem > repeats, but even this is inconsistent. > I made extension cables, allowing me proper access to the components. Also, > I have selectively sprayed with freeze spay all components as individually > as possible, on the main board and front panel board, with no affect. I > sprayed the two boards to a frosty state with no affect. > I interpret this problem to be thermally related, > Now here is the strangest part. > I encountered the same problem with my 2000 (August 1999) Grand Am. The car > was under warranty and the dealer changed it out. About two months ago, the > replacement radio started showing similar symptoms. It is starting to drop > display segments randomly when turned on. Reception is unaffected. Turning > it off and on a few times, the segments turn on and the problem will not > show up for a few days. > Any ideas would be most welcome. > Your time and effort is appreciated. > > Ty > > Tiberius Kraemer > BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS > 3312 Silverton Rd. NE > Salem, Oregon > Phone: 503 391 1491 > Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/