[TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check II CCF002
- From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:22:26 -0400
Do you know the link to get the Thomson software? I have your files and
soem that I have accumulated.
Leonard G. Caillouet
Electronics World
1261 NW 76 Blvd
Gainesville, FL 32606
352-332-5608
352-332-5668 FAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ohio Consumer Electronics" <samurai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check II CCF002
Yeah, that programmer looks like it would work fine. I haven't seen the
ponyprog software but you need to be able to read the chip into the
'buffer' - your PC's RAM, and be able to edit it on a byte by byte basis and
then re-program the chip with the edited data.
You need to download chipper checker software from Thompson and install it -
even if you don't have the CC box. Then you can browse the install
directory and look at the init files.
Here is a clip from ....\program files\chipchek\init\init187a.txt:
00 0F
01 01
02 13
03 08
04 20
05 07
06 60......
It's just two columns of hex digits. The first column is the hex offset
from the start of the EEPROM - (the address of the data) and the second
column is the data you need to write there to init the EEPROM. There are
many addresses that are skipped and the locations that hold the tuner data
are not changed.
Now there are some files in there like .......\program
files\chipchek\init\init195.txt that look like this:
F5 BF 10
06 00 S A0 00 00 FF
10 80 S A0 80 80 FF
14 1B S A0 1B 1B FF
16 20 S A0 20 20 FF
17 00 S A0 00 00 FF
18 3B F A0 3B 3B FF
1A 00 S A0 00 00 FF
1B 03 S A0 03 03 FF.....
What's all these columns about here? This looks complicated. But lucky
for us they included:
.......\program files\chipchek\init\init195.old which looks like this...
06 00
10 80
14 1B
16 20
17 00
18 3B
1A 00
1B 03.....
You can see that if you ignore the first line, the first two columns are the
same. So just use the first two columns and get on with it...
Also folks, I have RCA and some other eeprom data files in Intel hex format
that any EEPROM burning software should recognize. You can download them
at:
http://ocer.dyndns.org/eeprom
These will most likely require a tuner alignment if you burn these into a
chip.
Joel Jacobs
Ohio Consumer Electronics
Pickerington, Ohio
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From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check II CCF002
> Am I understanding correctly that you can determine the map of the EEPROM
> data using the chipper check software? Which version do you use? I have
a
> programmer ($35 from http://www.didya.com/product_detail.asp?pid=15 ) and
> use Pony Prog, but have not had time to map the addresses. Still, it is
> great to be able to at least copy the data and re-use it or use for
testing.
> Where can one get the software?
>
> Leonard Caillouet
> Electronics World
> 1261 NW 76 Blvd
> Gainesville, FL 32606
> 352-332-5608
> FAX 352-332-5668
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ohio Consumer Electronics" <samurai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:03 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check II CCF002
>
>
> I've fixed many without chipper checker. Several years ago I built an
> EEPROM programmer that plugs into my serial port. Most any brand that
uses
> an EEPROM this programmer can read and write the chip but I have to remove
> the chip from the chassis to put it into the programmer. The software
also
> allows me to edit the EEPROM data. For RCAs and GE it just so happens if
> you load chipper checker software, there is a directory that has all the
> init files. They are human readable and contain the address and values to
> plug into an EEPROM to re-initialize it. I can take a corrupt EEPROM -
> manually reinitialize it and keep the tuner data intact.
> If I have a convergence module to replace, I can pull the old chip,
read
> it, replace it and when the new module arrives pull the chip and reprogram
> the original data.. Same thing when replacing any module that has an
EEPROM
> on it.
>
> Joel Jacobs
> Ohio Consumer Electronics
> Pickerington, Ohio
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:11 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check II CCF002
>
>
> > My God. It sounds like using Chipper is harder than fixing the TV. How
in
> > the world do you all find the time to do all this Chipper software and
> cable
> > updates and keep up with Chipper every time a new set comes out? I will
> just
> > wait until TCE or Sencore sells the latest and greatest Chipper with all
> the
> > proper software and cables in one kit and one part number with
> instructions
> > for every model made so far. Does anyone know if you can buy a complete
> > Chipper that is current through the latest ITC and ATC chassis and will
> > still do the old CTC187 chassis? All with the proper software and
cables.
> Of
> > course I would have to buy a Laptop to reach the PTV's because my bench
> > computer is buried and I know the Chipper cable wouldn't reach the TV. I
> > have gotten by so far, even on the ATC and ITC chassis and I never
needed
> it
> > on the CTC175 thru the CTC203. I am curious, how many have never used
> > Chipper and still have fixed all the above sets. I know there must be
> others
> > that do just find without Chipper just like all the other manufacturers
> > TV's.
> >
> > Perry Bower
> > Electric Medic
> > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> > http://www.electricmedic.com
> > 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> > Martinez, Georgia 30907
> > Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> > Phone: 706-863-3474
> > Fax: 706-863-2316
> > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott Beebe
> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:59 PM
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Chipper Check II CCF002
> >
> >
> > Now, I'm seeing lots of posts about CC, I decided to dig mine out. I
> > remember doing an upgrade to it once, (back in 2000) and noticed it was
to
> > update to revision 1.2. Is there any other upgrades avail? I have not
had
> to
> > use it on any of the newer sets yet, so I would like to be prepared. (I
do
> > have the TECI1 cable on the way.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx,
> >
> > Scott Beebe
> > Ohm Electronics Inc.
> > 609 W. Clinton St.
> > Ithaca NY 14850
> > Voice: (607) 273-8406
> > Fax: (607) 273-8743
> > WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
> > mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
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