[TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check / CTC 177 series Question

  • From: Jim Shupe <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:02:52 -0700 (PDT)

Jon....

  I checked my saved EEPROM files at work and I have
several 177 files, so I'm assuming that it reads and
writes OK. I didn't, by the way, take the time to make
it pretty... it too was built from scrap parts.
  At the time I was recovering from a gastrectomy and
with the way my brain was working(NOT) I was lucky to
get it working at all. I have a green LED to let me
know that I have power, and a red to indicate switched
5v to the EEPROM.

  Jim Shupe, CET
  Lloyd's TV
  Yucca Valley, CA
  
 
--- Jon Garver <jongar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
&gt; Followed the procedure to a T.
&gt; 
&gt; I take it that the EEPROMS out of the 177's work
in
&gt; your
&gt; adapter OK?
&gt; 
&gt; It sounds like you took the time to make it look
&gt; nice.
&gt; Mine was made in hurry out of spare parts since I
&gt; didn't
&gt; have the test clip and needed to reinitialize a
&gt; chip.
&gt; 
&gt; Jon Garver
&gt; Heritage Television Service
&gt; 204 Heritage Rd.
&gt; Monticello, Indiana U.S.A.
&gt; 574-583-9681  Voice &amp; FAX
&gt; jongar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or
&gt; htv1@xxxxxxxxx (for file u.l.)
&gt; 
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: "Jim Shupe" &lt;jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
&gt; To: &lt;techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
&gt; Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:02 AM
&gt; Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Chipper Check / CTC 177
&gt; series Question
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Jon..
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;   I built an "out-of-set" adapter such as
yours
&gt; and it
&gt; &gt; works for all the sets that have the "select
&gt; chassis"
&gt; &gt; option. I added a couple of LED's and a
switch, to
&gt; &gt; allow switching and monitoring my +5v to the
&gt; EEPROM.
&gt; &gt;   It's important that the chassis be
selected
&gt; before
&gt; &gt; you apply the +5 to the EEPROM. This is
easiest
&gt; with
&gt; &gt; the latest software version, if you have
installed
&gt; the
&gt; &gt; hardware updates to the interface box. It
has a
&gt; &gt; scrolling list of chassis' you can click
once to
&gt; &gt; highlight, then switch your +5 ON, then
&gt; double-click
&gt; &gt; the chassis to select.
&gt; &gt;   You can then build customer files, upload
and
&gt; &gt; download, read files, etc.
&gt; &gt;   Hope that helps.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;   Jim Shupe, CET
&gt; &gt;   Lloyd's TV
&gt; &gt;   Yucca Valley, CA
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --- Jim Myers &lt;jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
wrote:
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Jon, did you read the CC help files
set up
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; procedure? It implies that
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; the chip must be in the chassis and
all you
&gt; can
&gt; &gt; doe
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; with a 175, 176,
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; 177, 186 and 187 is to
reinitialize. See
&gt; &gt; copy/paste
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; below:
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; CTC175, 176, 177, 186 &amp;amp; 187
Setup
&gt; Procedure
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; The only procedure that can be
performed on
&gt; these
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; chassis with Chipper
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Check is initializing the EEPROM to
factory
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; settings.  The set MUST be
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; OFF and UNPLUGGED when initializing
the
&gt; EEPROM.
&gt; &gt; You
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; must first
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; determine if your set has a
Motorola or ST
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; microprocessor.  The IC,
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; U3101, will be marked with either
ST or
&gt; Motorola.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; If the IC is a
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Motorola ground pin 1, if the IC is
marked ST
&gt; &gt; ground
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; pin 2.  Retain this
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; ground while the EEPROM is being
initialized.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Remove the ground before
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; restoring the set to operation. 
Prior to
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; initializing the EEPROM, an
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; external 5 volt supply and a 1K
resistor must
&gt; be
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; connected.  DO NOT
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; apply the external 5 volts until
after the
&gt; &gt; chassis
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; is selected in the
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Chipper Check software.  If  5
volts is
&gt; applied
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; before the chassis is
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; selected a NO COMMUNICATIONS error
may
&gt; result.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; The diagram below shows how Chipper
Check is
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; connected to the chassis.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Adapter board 212121 (supplied), 7
jumper
&gt; wires
&gt; &gt; and
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; an IC clip are used
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; to connect the Chipper Check
interface box to
&gt; the
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; EEPROM.  You may
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; connect leads directly to the IC or
use an IC
&gt; &gt; clip.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; The IC clip shown
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; in the diagram is a Pomonaâ clip,
Pomona part
&gt; &gt; number
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; 5108, available
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; from most parts supply houses.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
********************************************************************************
&gt; ***********************************
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Since 1972
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Jim Myers
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Telrad Electronics
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Fort Wayne, Indiana
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Jon Garver wrote:
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; OK CC users, I'm trying to
get CC to
&gt; &gt; communicate
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; with an
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; EEPROM out of this 177
chassis. When I
&gt; said
&gt; &gt; "out"
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; I mean that
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have an adapter with
I.C. socket and
&gt; &gt; external 5V
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; source.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I don't see the 177
associated with any
&gt; of
&gt; &gt; the
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; interface
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; adapters. I've checked one
out of a 175
&gt; and
&gt; &gt; it
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; works OK.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I tried a new chip for
another 177 and
&gt; can't
&gt; &gt; get
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; it to
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; communicate with CC
either.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; The interface adapter that
I use with my
&gt; &gt; homemade
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; adapter
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; is the one designated for
CTC 174, 175,
&gt; 18X
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; series, 19X series
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; an 203.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; The 177 is in the
"chassis" list so is
&gt; there
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; something else that
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I need to check it or
something
&gt; different
&gt; &gt; that I
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; have to do to
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; get it to communicate?
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Jon Garver
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Heritage Television
Service
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; 204 Heritage Rd.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Monticello, Indiana U.S.A.
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; 574-583-9681  Voice
&amp;amp; FAX
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; jongar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; htv1@xxxxxxxxx (for file
u.l.)
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
&gt; &gt;
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