Joe what does pin 10 of the CRT measure. If it is low check R15107 (2.2 ohs - 3 watt) going to pin 10. Max Bonnell Bonnell TV Robinson, IL Sender: repair-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx(Joe=A0Batchelor) Date: Sun, Jun 13, 2004, 4:12pm To: repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist-B] Re: CTC197 CRT filaments not ON Reply=A0to: repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This is not a normal problem. I have been around a long time but have never seen anything like this. With a normal RF signal the filament voltage is so low that the CRT will not light up. I opened the filament line and fed an external power supply to the CRT filament and got a picture. I connected the filament back normal and read with a scope. The voltage was very low. I noticed that if I had the Sencore feeding an RF signal to the set the filament voltage on the scope would be good and I would get a picture. If I removed the Sencore signal the filament voltage read on the scope would instantly drop. Put the Sencore back and normal filament voltage. The Sencore must be putting out a different sync or blanking pulse. I have not seen it in this chassis but in some older sets problems could result from an incorrect sandcastle signal. I ran out of time and have not checked regulation or high voltage. I was not sure if the filament was coming from the flyback but thanks to Max Bonnell I now know that it does. The high voltage must be changing since it is tied to the same source as the filament. Horizontal drive signal does not normally change the high voltage, but this has to be related to the signal, perhaps in the pincushion circuit. It is sets like that this that makes me want to stay in bed on Monday morning. Thanks to all that responded to this problem. Joe Batchelor CET TX-80 6/12/04 10:43:59 AM, "John at Main TV" <maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It is normal for the screen of a CTC197 to go to a flat grey when no signal is applied. This may appear black if youur brightness or screen is set low. Perhaps your antenna signal is weaker than your Sencore RF signal letting it go grey or it may be related to the video switching problems. It would be hard to imagine the filament votage changing unless the series resistors already mentioned are bad or have bad connections. BTW, the B+ to the horiz. stage should be +141 measured at cathode of CR14106. The CTC197 in known for bad IHVTs but that usually results in a dead set. Your problem may be all in the video switching. This is done in U26901. You will need a schematic to troubleshoot that. =A0 John. John Mielke Main TV 636 main St. Longmont, Co phone 303 776 6955 fax 303 776 0792 maintv2004@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Batchelor" <jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <repair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:18 PM Subject: [TechAssist-B] CTC197 CRT filaments not ON I have a CTC197 that the filament voltage is running too low and the CRT will not light up. If I feed the Sencore RF signal, the voltage increases and I get a picture. As soon as I remove the Sencore the filament voltage drops. That is with no signal and with an anteanna signal. I do not have the service data and am trying to use a CTC195 that is for a big screen. It is hard to trace the filament line. I assume it comes from the flyback, but it would be hard to get reduced voltage unless the pincushion circuit has a problem. I think one tip said adjust the size with the service mode, but that has no effect on this set. There is also a problem with the video switch, which allows video in and RF signal at the same time. This may or may not be related. Thanks in advance Joe Batchelor CET TX-80 ---------------------------------------------- ---------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/