I re-read the troubleshooting info from RCA, took a few scope measurements on the ribbon cable of the Gemstar. There were two missing DC voltages and two missing waveforms that the guide says means bad Gemstar module. I quoted the guy for my time and parts. With tax it came close to $300.00 for this 36" behemoth. he thought that was excessively expensive, as he was "told by several other local shops here" when he called around. There is only a few legit shops here in the county, I know all of them. They wouldn't make a statement like that not knowing what the diagnosis was as far as technical info like parts and time. I think he was blowing smoke, or talked to some Goober Pyles who thinks all you need is a VOM. So, I await his decision.Mulling it over,will call. Phil Bader ----- Original Message ----- From: "majorthom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <majorthom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:31 pm Subject: [TechAssist] Re: off topic` > Thanks,Phil > Hows the atc113 working out? > Pete > > > tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > No, Pete this forum was not formed for BS. It is a collection of > small > electronics shop owners and their tech, many successful shops of > many > years, many are ASC's and have access to much otherwise > inaccessible > tech info. > We do have a "chat" forum for the BS but sometimes a legit topic > like "rates" etc spurs a little energy and sometimes "evolves" > into > something other than strict technical conversation. We are a bit > loose > lately.Usually a moderator will whip us back into shape. I get > lots of > email also a day from three tech forums and two electronics tech- > chat > forums. I usually periodically just do a search in my inbox > for "chat", and dump them. I have a set of email folders with > makes,etc. like "RCA", Zenith" ,etc and search and slide those to > the > appropriate folder. I have accumilated several gigabytes over > years > here.A library of info and fixes.But this is not exactly military > protocol here, Pete. For the most part we're a lot of small shop > owners,trying hard to make it but rest assured, there is a wealth > of > tech info at hand. Don't dismiss this forum too quickly. I only > wish > to attain the knowledge and intelligence of some here.Just spit > out > the few pits and enjoy the fruit of the forum...Enjoy the ride. > ;-) > Phil > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "majorthom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:33 pm > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: off topic` > > > I get lotamail and like a tech site.The forum was used for bs-right > > Pete > > tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Pete, you are assuming these little energetic exchanges are > > fights. > > no, We are like a bunch of siblings. We say whats on our minds, > > express our opinion right or wrong.The recipient does the same. > We > > tell each other we're crazey some days. But would take a bullet > > for > > them.No real harm. Have you ever seen brothers spat? But they > love > > each other. So a bit of hair pulling is normal among many > > different > > personalities. Now I don't argue with Perry Bower because he > > charges a > > fee to me for the service and we all know how he charges. > > (am I in trouble yet?) > > ;-) Kidding Perry.. > > Love all, > > Phil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "majorthom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" > > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2005 2:24 pm > > Subject: [TechAssist] off topic` > > > > > hello again-can we keep on topic? We have fights and this > hurts > > us > > > as a group.PLEASE > > > Pete > > > > > > Peter Neal > > > Neal Electronics > > > 1905 E. 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