[TechAssist] Re: 19 inch portables

Phil,
The last 19 inch set I fixed came in many months ago and is still here 
with a 49.95 price tag on it. The person that brought it in did not have 
the deposit money on her (so she said)so I never even got that. I fixed 
it anyway and now cannot even sell it. The 25 and larger business is 
still good. Shops here all closing down except for a few. Maybe the 
economy is so good here all are buying new? It just feels strange for 
the sudden stop on all 19 inch repairs after doing so many over the years
  I charge a flat 20.00 deposit on all 27 and under sets and 50.00 on 
all larger sets. The deposit is the best way to go by far. I used to 
give free estimates... until I finally came to my senses and realized 
the estimate in most cases is the hardest part of the repair. I can hand 
the parts to anyone and let them put them in but it takes work to 
determine what parts will do the job properly.
   .
Jay Jay.s TV
Clarksburg, WV

Phil Bader wrote:
> I'm sorry for your situation there. I also get the "we can buy one at 
> Walmart for XXX". That's the bargaining chip and  setting the hook for 
> you to think "OOOh he's on the fence here, I better lo-ball it"...
> After they are made to understand they will be at Warmart every 90 days 
> to six months replacing them, and the lack of workmanship... Most 
> understand.But I seem to have a more loyal following here and they seem 
> to feel I will look out for them with a solid repair.Most are referrals 
> and know me by reputation before entering the shop.  Here we are mostly 
> blue collar like myself. Many seem to like to keep their stuff because 
> they like it. Not looking for an excuse to ditch it for new.
> I guess it's different some places, so I cannot say some one else should 
> take my path, they have to earn a living in THEIR town, not mine. But I 
> am one of two established shops left where there were pages in years 
> past in the phone book Just pure luck I guess.
> Phil Bader
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> Doug Keller wrote:
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>>Jay's right about this area. Usually, the first thing out of their mouth 
>>is "I can get a new one at walmart for $$$$$".  About the only 19"ers I 
>>get are the broken ones that people graciouly give you. (So they don't 
>>have to pay sanitation 10 bucks to cart it off) If you can get prices 
>>like that, more power to you, but around here all you would get is 
>>laughed at for quoting prices like that.
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>>Doug Keller
>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>Terra Alta, WV
>>USA        26764
>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>Phil,
>>> You obviously live in a different planet than I do here in West 
>>>Virginia. I get a diagnostic fee up front and have for quite a while. 
>>>People here keep close track on the prices for new units and through it 
>>>into your face at drop off time. 100 DOLLARS for a 19 inch or 13 inch 
>>>combo? Well not here buddy they would laugh you out of business. Vcr 
>>>repair 50.00? I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair.  Well it 
>>>is good to know that in some areas people can still earn a decent living 
>>>on those. Unfortunately not here where I am at. I would have a better 
>>>chance at hitting the lottery that expecting to make that anymore on 
>>>those units.
>>>Jay Jay,s TV
>>>Clarksburg, WV
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>>>Phil Bader wrote:
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>>>>I still get 13" TVCRs, 13 and 19-20 " TVs. I manage to get 60-100.00 range.
>>>>if you guys stuck to your guns and collected a diagnisis fee up front, 
>>>>you would nail most all those repairs with few turn downs.
>>>>A 13-20" TV in the door: $25.00 up front diagnostic fee (applied to 
>>>>their OKd repair).
>>>>A 25-32" set: $39.00 fee up front.
>>>>A 13-27" TVCR combi: $39.00 fee.
>>>>VCR  $25.00 fee.
>>>>Typical VCR repair: (maintanence,timing,etc) $49.00 - 25.00 dep. Bal 
>>>>due: 24.00. That customer will go 24.00 tp not lose the VCR and 25.00. 
>>>>They "see" the bal due, folks. Not deceptive, just covering our expenses.
>>>>A 27" TV typical bill:   79.00 labor+ 49.00 parts= 128.00 +(6.5% tax) 
>>>>8.32=  $136.32 total.  Less 39.00 deposit: 97.32 due.
>>>>The customer cannot buy a NICE DEPENDABLE WELL BUILT 27" TV for less 
>>>>than a hundred bucks.
>>>>I've added up all my month's small 25.00 fees on the "turn downs" and 
>>>>they easily paid ,say, my phone bill, or electric,etc in a month.
>>>>I hear a lot of sad stories out there about cheapo sets driving down the 
>>>>business. Be an honest salesman! Explain truthfully what you know as 
>>>>gospel: Theat customers older set that had a good picture before it went 
>>>>down, and only one failure in the ten years is worth TRYING to save, if 
>>>>possible. The result is a sturdy piece of equipement that will survive 
>>>>until he decides to get an HDTV AFTER the prices drop to more reasonable 
>>>>amount.
>>>>Just EXPLAIN for five minutes and they usually will see the lifgt.
>>>>There's always the guy who thinks c**p is just as good as quality 
>>>>items,just less money, no matter what, but that's not  a general view. I 
>>>>say, "there's a 5.00 plastic Walmart hand bag, and there's a leather 
>>>>75.00 hand bag. Both bags that hold the same stuff, but that's where the 
>>>>similarity ends... Paint a word picture!
>>>>Oh, God, there I go again. Sorry, guys.
>>>>My 2 cents...
>>>>BTW I seem to stay swamped with 10-15 yr old sets, many are 20-25". AND 
>>>>FEW RETURNS!. (I'm thorough in shop)
>>>>Not rich by any means... But busy, and have a few $$$.
>>>>Phil Bader
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>>>>becyn wrote:
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>>>>>yep, thats about it. At least you can save the money that you might spend 
>>>>>on
>>>>>a gym. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim McVey
>>>>>McVey Alltronix
>>>>>327 Broadway
>>>>>Newburgh Ny 12550
>>>>>ph: 845 561 8383
>>>>>fx: 845 561 9017
>>>>>Consumer electronics &
>>>>>computer service.
>>>>>Factory authorized for
>>>>>over twenty brands.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: "Jay" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 PM
>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] 19 inch portables
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>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>Just wondering if this applies to most. I used to get a lot of 19 inch
>>>>>>televisions in for repair monthly. Now I rarely get one a month. Still
>>>>>>get 25 inch and up but anything smaller seems to be a thing of the past
>>>>>>in this area. I guess I will have to lift weights and get in shape for
>>>>>>the bigger units and stay where the money is for now.
>>>>>>Jay-Jay's TV
>>>>>>Clarksburg, WV
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