It has to fly on puss motors. It has a 75mm mount. The Intimidator 5 and the Competitor 5 both have 98mm holes in the bottom. They take real motors. 8^) J ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Garibaldi To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:33 PM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 Yes as long as you don't fly it on any puss motor Jack G From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Diehl Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:10 PM To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tccrockets] Intimidator 4 Ok, I got my Intimidator 4 kit today. Does anyone know where I can find 2 TAP's to do my L3? Rob