Asked Mike Bailey he was selling all of Frank’s stuff on E-bay Jack G From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of shawn stephens Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:07 PM To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 how do you get a hold of Dave Trino? Kosdon was working on an old case of mine before he passed and I'm wondering if he has it ---Shawn Stephens ----- Original Message ----- From: mike bailey <mailto:aerofabb@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 Im not sure if Frank changed the parts for his Kosdon 75/7600, but the motor I got from Dave Trino, who inherited Franks stuff, sold me a Kosdon 75/7600 complete motor for $275.00 and it has a black anodize forward closure and uses a thrust ring on the outside of the case, and from what Jack has told me, I have the older Kosdon East motor which uses the thrust ring groove and has a AMW forward closure and nozzle, but i don't know what changes Frank made after those. I have some of Franks 54mm motors with and without the thrust ring groove, so i dont know if he made any 75mm motor casings without the thrust ring. but looking at the Aerotech KBA instructions for the Aerotech KBA M1450W it showed this: USE ONLY KBA RELOAD KITS AND MOTOR PARTS TO REFURBISH YOUR KOSDON OR ANIMAL MOTOR. The KBA reload kits have been designed specifically for use in your particular Kosdon or Animal motor. Use of imitation components may destroy your motor, rocket and payload and will invalidate your motor warranty. Only use KBA reload kits intended for your specific Kosdon or Animal motor. DO NOT INTERCHANGE PARTS! Do not use KBA reload kits or motor components for any other purpose than to refurbish an Kosdon or Animal motor. so its showing that it should only be used with Kosdon or AMW motors and not just only for AMW. I don't know if Frank made changes to his 75/7600 and changed the nozzle and forward closure. Maybe you seen different ones? -----Original Message----- From: Karl Baumheckel <karlbaum@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2011 5:39 pm Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 Well, it may "go into" the Kosdon TRM case at a research launch but it is only certified with the AMW nozzle and bulkhead. I think a lot of people get confused by the KBA label thinking the Animal Compatable reloads can go in either Kosdon or AMW hardware and be certified but they aren't. _____ From: "mike bailey" <aerofabb@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 1:45:32 AM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 It will go into a Kosdon 75/7600 casing. they same size. I have one. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Baumheckel <karlbaum@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 8:26 pm Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 Just to clarify the M1450 is a KBA "Animal Compatible" and goes in the AMW 7600 case with a reusable nozzle. One nice thing about the AMW case is that it is great for EX motors. It seems like a great deal to me. _____ From: "mike bailey" <aerofabb@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:09:38 PM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 I would use a Kosdon by Aerotech 75/7600 , M1450 its 7813.0Ns motor and was use to set the M altitude record, its more powerful than the M1850W 7658.6Ns. and for around 299.00 its about a hundred dollars cheaper than the M1850W -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Stanley <rocketguy1317@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 7:07 pm Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 The AeroTech M1850W is no puss motor for the 75/7680. It lofted my Performance Rocketry Competitor 4 to 18,600 feet. Video by James Dougherty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdRS2xaqtbc But just leave that 75mm motor mount out of the Intimidator 4, make it a minimum diameter, and fly it on an M750W 8^D Aaron Stanley LUNAR# 1322 AEROPAC# 680 SARG# 10 - Equipment Manager TRA# 10834 L3 NAR# 84298 L3 West Coast <http://www.wemakethegoodstuff.com/> Aerotech Demo representative. <http://www.wemakethegoodstuff.com/> Aerotech the BEST way to fly. _____ From: "James Marino" <jmarino1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:22:46 AM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 It has to fly on puss motors. It has a 75mm mount. The Intimidator 5 and the Competitor 5 both have 98mm holes in the bottom. They take real motors. 8^) J ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Garibaldi <mailto:jackgaribaldi@xxxxxxx> To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:33 PM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Intimidator 4 Yes as long as you don’t fly it on any puss motor Jack G From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?> ] On Behalf Of Rob Diehl Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:10 PM To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tccrockets] Intimidator 4 Ok, I got my Intimidator 4 kit today. Does anyone know where I can find 2 TAP’s to do my L3? Rob