[tcb] Re: turbo's

what if i put the flux capacitor on top of the bus...i.e. in the luggage rack? 
then the heat would be outside the engine compartment...now if i can just get 
the bus up to 88mph i could go back to when you were my age so i can slap you 
and not feel bad :D j/k denis, you're awesome.

> From: coocoo@xxxxxxx
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:15:52 -0600
> 
> Brianstein, I think that you are looking for a whole bunch of complication 
> with a turbo. What you might want to look into is nuclear fusion. Not 
> fission with all the waste problems that you will have for the next 250,000 
> years and all that radioactivity messing up your hair and all, but fission, 
> where all you will get is heat and light. The Sun does it everyday, 
> compressing hydrogen until it becomes helium, but you will be saving money 
> by using seawater as fuel. You might have a problem with the containment of 
> the 1,000,000 plus degrees of heat, but I think it can be done with magnets. 
> You might not be able to have that much heat in the engine compartment 
> because of the problem with the #3 cylinder. You might have to pull it 
> behind your bus with a small trailer and use really really good oil.
> 
> See the article at  http/ohmygodthechinasyndrome.huh? or 
> http//snowballschanceinhell.ohno.
> 
> I think putting in a Subaru motor is easier.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Will Wood" <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:33 PM
> Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> 
> 
> > The only idea for keeping it out of the engine compartment is to keep
> > the engine cooling air temps down.  You have that big fan sucking air
> > from the ducts, if the turbo is in there with the exhaust ducting you're
> > adding a lot of surface area that's 100s of degrees.  More hot air for
> > the engine to deal with.
> >
> > A belt driven supercharger OTOH doesn't require the exhaust ducting.
> > You then just have the intercooler plumbing to worry about.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 12:26 -0600, Brian Denning wrote:
> >> the idea is to mount the blow through turbo under the rear apron that
> >> way it is under the bus and not in the engine compartment...the only
> >> thing that would be in the compartment would be the fresh air
> >> hoses...there is plenty of room to run an intercooler on one side of
> >> the engine compartment but the question there is how do you get water
> >> to flow in it? then do you have to have a radiator to cool the water?
> >> what about an electric fan and do an air to air intercooler?
> >>
> >> efi is a definate future for the bus...just would rather it be in the
> >> far future than the near future. using the true full flow that i have
> >> i could easily run an external oil cooler to help with engine temps so
> >> the only worry left is the cht's.
> >>
> >> the ol' pockets have a hole in them so i have been reading alot on the
> >> junkyard builds that are on the world wide web. it seems very
> >> plausible the question is what do i need to look out for besides the
> >> obvious engine temp problem.
> >>
> >> how much would it increase my temps by if i kept the turbo part out of
> >> the engine compartment? (which is the plan)
> >>
> >> > Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> >> > From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:18:18 -0600
> >> >
> >> > Brian,
> >> >
> >> > I would leave it this way.... I've built a few engines, including
> >> ones
> >> > with turbos. Unless I was building something for the track I'd avoid
> >> > it, in a bus, especially for the street.
> >> >
> >> > Anytime you compress a gas, it induces heat in the gas... (Molecules
> >> > bumpin uglies). Unless you can dissapate that heat you'll have a
> >> hot,
> >> > thin (low density) air charge going into the engine. More heat in =
> >> > more heat out and in an aircooled engine that can be a problem.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, but how deep are your
> >> > pockets? If it were me, EFI, Intercooler (air to water) and an
> >> > aerocharger style with the turbo kept low and out of the engine
> >> > compartment.
> >> >
> >> > I'd start by reading some of the books out there.
> >> >
> >> > If you want some simple examples..
> >> >
> >> > http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/turboflow.html
> >> >
> >> > Now, since you have a bay. Here's a simpler route to go IMO..
> >> >
> >> > This would be my inspiration... ;-)
> >> >
> >> > http://www.race-taxi.ch/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://video.aol.com/video-detail/vw-t1-biturbo-porsche-993-racing-in-spa/751231475
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 09:23 -0600, Brian Denning wrote:
> >> > > which is why i wanted those who know about turbo's to send me a pm
> >> > > cause i figured those who don't may post something dumb...oh wait
> >> > > someone just did.
> >> > >
> >> > > added torque at top end, better gas mileage if you stay out of it,
> >> > > more power, hmmm all things that a bus needs...yep, it's retarded
> >> > >
> >> > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:49:19 -0600
> >> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: turbo's
> >> > > > From: eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >
> >> > > > turbo buses are retarded.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Brian Denning said:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > who knows about 'em??? pm me i have a couple of small
> >> questions
> >> > > about the
> >> > > > > install.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > no, it's not being done yet but i'm going shopping on saturday
> >> at
> >> > > the pick
> >> > > > > and pull.
> >> > > > >
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