Possible Terry. According to Eccles high hinges till 12/29/60 @ SN 705620 when change was made to lower hinges. This would have been about 4 months into model year 61 production. But for the bus on the samba the bastard 40 was stopped on 6/1/60 @ SN 614456. So it's not possible for this bus to have been an early 61 if the engine is original. And Terry; I learn something new about you every day; I didn't know that you had an early Westy. For all you early bus lovers out there, if you don't have a copy of David Eccles's VW Transporter and Microbus you need to get one. Got mine from Peter, don't know if he has any more or not. Peter? Sammie TheresaBuckner@xxxxxxx wrote: Peter I believe I have high hinge doors on a 61 . One owner Westy org. title I guess WHATEVER TERRY themailman