[tcb] Re: help
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:10:05 -0600
As a point to this, tighten the star adjusters until you can no longer turn
the tire/wheel by hand. This helps seat the shoe back into its best
position
with respect to wear and the drum. Then back off the adjuster until you
feel a slight drag while turning the tire/wheel by hand. DO this on both
adjusters
one at a time.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Steve Chamberlain <
steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You can adjust the brake shoe until they start to drag but they could be
> dragging on the top end (or bottom end if you are inclined to think from
> the bottom up) and the bottom end is not making contact. You have to adjust
> so that the full surface of the shoe makes contact at the same time.
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM, sammie smith <
> bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Steve: I don't know what you mean by top to bottom adjustment. Help
>> me out.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Steve Chamberlain <steveraychamberlain@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Sent:* Fri, December 23, 2011 9:30:36 AM
>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>
>> Good advice Sammie, however Tyler was refering to 'top to bottom'
>> adjustment. After working with Tyler about a week we took it to
>> Metaphysical VW. It took Toby about 20 minutes of equalizing everything and
>> he had good pedal. Also when you replace the line from top cyliner to
>> bottom cylinder make sure to bend the tube enough to get it off the center
>> part of the drum. Doesn't take long to wear a hole in the brake line.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM, sammie smith <
>> bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Good point Tyler. The way I adjust them to make sure that is not a
>>> problem: Adjust one shoe until it almost locks the brake, back it off a
>>> couple of clicks, adjust the other shoe until it almost locks the brake
>>> then back it off a couple of clicks. You should then have both shoes just
>>> making contact with the drum. Also, assuming you are doing a complete
>>> brake job; remove both adjusters, unscrew the screw from the star wheel,
>>> clean both thoroughly, run a wire wheel on both the threads of the screw
>>> and the contact area of the star adjuster, reassemble using Permatex anti
>>> seize on the threads and the surface area of the star adjuster. This
>>> assures that they will turn freely until the next brake job.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Tyler Chamberlain <hexarobi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 22, 2011 11:25:32 PM
>>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>>
>>> Had a similar problem on my bus. I seemed to be getting them adjusted
>>> properly because they would just barely scrape when turning, but one the
>>> adjusters was all the way out and the other was all the way in, so they
>>> wouldn't expand correctly when pressure was applied. Might be worth
>>> checking.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM, sammie smith <
>>> bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know. Get under there and feel the play. Again, there
>>>> should be about 2-3mm of play between the first movement of the pedal and
>>>> when it engages the mc plunger.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Rusty Herring <rustmah1@xxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* Texas Coalition of Busses <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 22, 2011 8:23:53 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>>>
>>>> I did try adjusting the rod to get the pedal to come up higher inside
>>>> the car . could i have gone to far?
>>>>
>>>> If it can happen it will hapen to me????
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:19:46 -0800
>>>> From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: help
>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what you mean by too far. It is supposed to be adjusted
>>>> so that it is not firm up against the plunger in the MC, but not too much
>>>> play. As stated, I think the free play is like 2 to 3 mm. If it has too
>>>> much play the pedal will not depress the MC completely and if it has no
>>>> free play or pressure on the MC then there is always pressure in the system
>>>> and your brakes will drag. Your problem may be that there is too much
>>>> distance (play) between the rod and the mc and you are not getting complete
>>>> depression of the mc when you press the pedal. The rod is adjustable.
>>>>
>>>> I guess in simple terms you can say that your brake system has two
>>>> adjustments: The brake shoes and the pedal plunger to the MC. If either
>>>> is not adjusted properly it can result in a very low pedal before your
>>>> brakes are engaged, or the reverse; you always have a full pedal and your
>>>> shoes are contacting the drums all the time. Obviously you do not want
>>>> either condition.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Rusty Herring <rustmah1@xxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* Texas Coalition of Busses <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 22, 2011 8:08:36 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>>>
>>>> can you adjust the rod out of the master cyclinder to far?
>>>>
>>>> If it can happen it will hapen to me????
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:52:55 -0800
>>>> From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: help
>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Well, Denis there is a third: Mentioned in my first post; there may
>>>> be too much play between the pedal push rod and the plunger on the MC.
>>>> Adjust according to specs.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 22, 2011 7:42:35 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>>>
>>>> There are only the two things possible, I think. Adjust the brakes
>>>> and then bleed. Make sure that you keep fluid in the reservoir and then
>>>> bleed again, oh yeah, bleed again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure your rear wheels will “lock up”.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Brad Tripp
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:35 PM
>>>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rusty did you adjust your rear brakes correctly also
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2011 7:02 PM, "Rusty Herring" <rustmah1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> where do i find your post on this subject?
>>>>
>>>> If it can happen it will hapen to me????
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:43:18 -0800
>>>> From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [tcb] Re: help
>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> 67s don't have brake pads. They are drum brakes. And see my post on
>>>> adjusting the shoes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Duncan <whocanduncan1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* TCB <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 22, 2011 5:40:41 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: help
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if this seems obvious but you don't mention if you adjusted the
>>>> brake pads?
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Rusty Herring <rustmah1@xxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> *Sender: *tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> *Date: *Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:31:45 -0600
>>>>
>>>> *To: *Texas Coalition of Busses<tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> *ReplyTo: *tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *[tcb] Re: help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to fix the brake system on a 67 deluxe buse.
>>>> Have changed out the mastercyclinder, all four wheel cycliners on the
>>>> front,new drums on front.
>>>> I've ran 64oz of brake fluid thru all the system(bleeding all wheel
>>>> cycliners front and back) no more air, even bled mastercyclinder, all hoses
>>>> look new.
>>>> the brake pedal goes almost to the floor before the front brakes will
>>>> lock up. the rear brakes want lockup. they will if you pull the e brake.
>>>> i'm at a loss to figure this out .
>>>> can any body offer any sugestions on what to try next??????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it can happen it will hapen to me????
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:54:41 -0600
>>>> Subject: [tcb] Bus sighting
>>>> From: evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> In the admirals club at LAX there is a large photograph about 4 by 6 on
>>>> the wall. It is a photo of the desert southwest, possibly Mexico, with a
>>>> 70s bus in it driving on a dirt road. Lime green and yellow.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Tyler Chamberlain
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
My Email Moniker
http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx
Other related posts:
