I don't know what you mean by too far. It is supposed to be adjusted so that it is not firm up against the plunger in the MC, but not too much play. As stated, I think the free play is like 2 to 3 mm. If it has too much play the pedal will not depress the MC completely and if it has no free play or pressure on the MC then there is always pressure in the system and your brakes will drag. Your problem may be that there is too much distance (play) between the rod and the mc and you are not getting complete depression of the mc when you press the pedal. The rod is adjustable. I guess in simple terms you can say that your brake system has two adjustments: The brake shoes and the pedal plunger to the MC. If either is not adjusted properly it can result in a very low pedal before your brakes are engaged, or the reverse; you always have a full pedal and your shoes are contacting the drums all the time. Obviously you do not want either condition. ________________________________ From: Rusty Herring <rustmah1@xxxxxxx> To: Texas Coalition of Busses <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, December 22, 2011 8:08:36 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: help can you adjust the rod out of the master cyclinder to far? If it can happen it will hapen to me???? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:52:55 -0800 From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: help To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Well, Denis there is a third: Mentioned in my first post; there may be too much play between the pedal push rod and the plunger on the MC. Adjust according to specs. ________________________________ From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, December 22, 2011 7:42:35 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: help There are only the two things possible, I think. Adjust the brakes and then bleed. Make sure that you keep fluid in the reservoir and then bleed again, oh yeah, bleed again. I am not sure your rear wheels will “lock up”. From:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brad Tripp Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:35 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: help Rusty did you adjust your rear brakes correctly also On Dec 22, 2011 7:02 PM, "Rusty Herring" <rustmah1@xxxxxxx> wrote: where do i find your post on this subject? If it can happen it will hapen to me???? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:43:18 -0800 From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: help To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 67s don't have brake pads. They are drum brakes. And see my post on adjusting the shoes. ________________________________ From:Duncan <whocanduncan1@xxxxxxxxx> To: TCB <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, December 22, 2011 5:40:41 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: help Sorry if this seems obvious but you don't mention if you adjusted the brake pads? ________________________________ From: Rusty Herring <rustmah1@xxxxxxx> Sender: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:31:45 -0600 To: Texas Coalition of Busses<tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ReplyTo: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: help I'm trying to fix the brake system on a 67 deluxe buse. Have changed out the mastercyclinder, all four wheel cycliners on the front,new drums on front. I've ran 64oz of brake fluid thru all the system(bleeding all wheel cycliners front and back) no more air, even bled mastercyclinder, all hoses look new. the brake pedal goes almost to the floor before the front brakes will lock up. the rear brakes want lockup. they will if you pull the e brake. i'm at a loss to figure this out . can any body offer any sugestions on what to try next?????? If it can happen it will hapen to me???? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:54:41 -0600 Subject: [tcb] Bus sighting From: evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx In the admirals club at LAX there is a large photograph about 4 by 6 on the wall. It is a photo of the desert southwest, possibly Mexico, with a 70s bus in it driving on a dirt road. Lime green and yellow.