[tcb] Re: Tie rods (again)
- From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 08:57:56 -0700 (PDT)
Ok, had to go look. Both my 66 and 65 have non-adjustable tie-rods on the
right. Wolfsburg West catalog shows non-adjustable rt. tie-rod through 67. WW
catalog also shows 68 and later to have adjustable tie-rod on the right and
that the left and right tie rod are interchangeable and they are the same. So,
will a 68 bay tie-rod fit on a split, and are the split tie-rods also
interchangeable between left and right. If either or both or correct then it
would be easy to put an adjustable tie-rod on the right side of a split. Have
not had a chance to check the Bentley manal. Damn, why do you guys come up
with this complex stuff anyway.
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From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:37 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Tie rods (again)
Ok Will, you got me on that one. I would have sworn my 65 and 66, which have
the original components, both had non-adjustable ones, but now I am going to
have to look and do some research on when they changed.
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From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 9:56:43 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Tie rods (again)
Later 64 up busses came with both sides adjustable.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
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On May 5, 2010 9:15 AM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That's a good question for the early VW engineers. Busses have a "fixed" tie
rod on the right. You can only adjust the left one for toe. And of course
when you do it screws up the centering of the steering wheel, which you can't
adjust out like on a bug, since the right tie rod is not adjustable. You then
must adjust the centering of the steering wheel by adjusting the length of the
drag link.
And the very close to correct "toe-in" on both busses and bugs is approximately
1/8th of an inch. And yes, it is in the Bentley somewhere.
But why they ever built a "non-adjustable" tie-rod I have no idea since it
makes no sense.
And by the way: All of the above applies to the split bus. Don't know on a
bay since I don't work on those things; but I am assuming they are the same.
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From: Gerald Livingston <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 12:48:46 AM
Subject: [tcb] Tie rods (again)
Is there any reason to NOT put adjustable tie rods on both sides rather
than the fixed one on the right and the adjustable on the left?
I stuck my head under the bus but must have been having a bad eye day.
I thought it already had adjustables on both sides so I went and bought
4 new tie rod ends.
Got some help and got them pulled off today and I discover that there
is actually the one fixed length tie rod and one adjustable.
The fixed length was installed on the driver (LEFT) side instead of on
the right where it's supposed to go.
So, I need to order one complete tie rod from Bus Depot. I happen to
LIKE the tie rod ends that I bought from O'Reilly. They actually have
grease fittings. The ones from Bus Depot don't.
So, is there a compelling reason for me to order a replacement FIXED
tie rod or can I just order another adjustable and use my new (with
grease fittings) ends in place of the stock (no grease fittings) ends?
Also, does the Bentley have the toe-in measurements in it somewhere?
I'm crossing my fingers that the front wheels don't get bumped while I
wait for Bus Depot shipping but ...
Thx,
G2
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