[tcb] Re: Plugs -- need answer before 8pm so I can buy or not.
- From: Gerald <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:06:20 -0600
I never let the oil temp hit 250 while driving. And, I now officially
give up. Put it back together and have the exact same symptoms. Running
only on 1 and 2 cylinders.
Good fire on 3 and 4 but there's nothing there for them to burn. Pull
the plug wires off of 3 and 4 and watch a good healthy spark go to the
tower but there is no effect on the engine/idle. Pull off either #1 or
#2 and the engine immediately dies.
MechMark, are you available to go through this motor before
Thanksgiving?
Contact me off list with potential cost and whether you want just the
motor or the whole bus. Single port. No clue what size pistons. I have
a complete Elring gasket set on hand (except the crush gaskets I
just installed).
It takes me 2 weeks to clear a single day to work on it.
G2
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:33 PM, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> If you haven't been running the crush gaskets you've been leaning out the
> engine and possibly overheating it.
> On Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM, "Gerald Livingston" <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Intake gaskets? What intake gaskets? (and they're not copper in the new
> > Elring kits, they're aluminum or tin (haven't magnet tested them).
> >
> > But, there was actually NOTHING under the intake runners at the head.
> > I'm surprised I ever got it started, much less drove to both
> > Fredericksburg AND Temple.
> >
> > Putting it back together (fingers crossed) now. Helper gone to look for
> > a 10mm stepped wrench to get a grip on the nuts over the runner lips.
> > All the sockets and u-joints I have won't get in under the pipe bend on
> > the rear nuts.
> >
> > G2
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 8:26:49 -0400
> > <bustravler@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Have you checked the 10 mm runner flange bolt torque? The copper
> >> crush washers may be leaking. You can spray some carb cleaner in the
> >> area to see if engine speed increases verifying an vacuum leak.
> >> Always best to have a fire extinquisher handy just in case. ----
> >> Gerald Livingston <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Single port motor.
> >> >
> >> > Has been declining.
> >> >
> >> > Short runs to break it back in. (Under 200 miles round trip)
> >> >
> >> > Then it took me the 340 miles (each way) to the Fredericksburg show
> >> >
> >> > Then a few more short runs (under 300 round trip)
> >> >
> >> > Then the 240 miles each way to Temple.
> >> >
> >> > Getting a little harder to keep running each time.
> >> >
> >> > G2
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:48:28 -0400
> >> > <bustravler@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > #3 and 4 are definately running leaner than the the other bank. Is
> >> > > this a DP or SP motor. The compression numbers should be adequate
> >> > > for 3 and 4 to hit. Did this engine engine ever run good or did
> >> > > it run ok and then decline? A cylinder leakdown test can
> >> > > identify the variance in compression. It may take some time for
> >> > > rings to reseat if it has set for a long time and not rotated
> >> > > during storage. --
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -- Gerald Livingston <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > > http://tcb-web.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=99
> >> > > > http://tcb-web.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=100
> >> > > > http://tcb-web.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=101
> >> > > > http://tcb-web.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=102
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Compression is going all over the place now. Need to check and
> >> > > > see if the head nuts are loose since this motor was stored 6 or
> >> > > > 7 years then fired back up (with fresh oil and after hand
> >> > > > turning a while)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1 -- 155
> >> > > > 2 -- 140
> >> > > > 3 -- 130
> >> > > > 4 -- 165
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Somebody raffle off a fresh rebuild since I seem to have good
> >> > > > luck with raffles. ;-)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > G2
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:38:49 -0400
> >> > > > <bustravler@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I have used them in a pinch. What are your plugs burning
> >> > > > > like? You might want to recheck the compression on 3 & 4.
> >> > > > > Sounds like you may have a vacuum leak if the compression is
> >> > > > > comparable to 1& 2. ---- Gerald Livingston
> >> > > > > <gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > > > > Has anybody stuck AutoLite plugs in their bus in a pinch?
> >> > > > > > (AutoLite 425)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Time sensitive, need to know before 8pm if they are
> >> > > > > > absolutely horrible. I can order 7902's online later and
> >> > > > > > just use these for testing now.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Got the points set and the dizzy back in. Hard to start.
> >> > > > > > Figured it might be that I was adjusting the carb with the
> >> > > > > > points a little off but ...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Pull the 3 or 4 plug wire off the cap and there is no
> >> > > > > > effect on the engine rpm at all once I get it started. Good
> >> > > > > > strong spark at the cap end (jumps over at least a 1/4"
> >> > > > > > gap) but I guess the plug end is bad.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Pulling 1 or 2 drops rpm and kills the motor if I leave
> >> > > > > > them off more than a few revs.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I need a set of test plugs and nobody stocks anything that
> >> > > > > > crosses to a Bosch 7902 except the AutoLite 425.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > G2
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
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> >>
> >
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