[tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006

  • From: "Andrew Barnes" <deabarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:57:42 -0500

Trey
  I had the same exact problem with mine 78west 2.0L and I did what you have
done to your and it ended up being the starter solenoid . I had a starter
shop look at mine and he fixed it for $25 plus he checked everything out ,
it did the trick
   Drew
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Perring" <perring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006


> The coil in the relay can fail, of course, and an ohm meter will show
> this, should it be the case4, but typically, coil failure  that will
> be due to back EMF, induced by the DC voltage collapse across the
> inductance of the relay's coil. Placing a diode across the coil in
> reverse polarity will kill any back EMF spikes, minimizing premature
> failure of the relay's coil. The diode's voltage rating should be
> well above the normal 12 VDC actuation value.
>
> An equally common failure mode for these relays is due to corrosion
> on the contacts. The voltage is so low as to not properly cause a
> spark on the make-break cycle of the contacts. A spark would serve to
> self clean the contacts (similar to the self cleansing action of
> polar relays on old teletype units)
>
> And yes, the relays will fail. I have had two failures in the past
> ten years, I would suppose.
> Each failure was of the "intermittent type" created by corroded contacts.
> Pull from the socket - replace - crank on.
> ========================
>
>
> At 11:32 9/17/2006, you wrote:
> >If the battery doesn't cure your ills , put a meter on
> >the relay , they go bad also.
> >
> >--- Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I cleaned the ground from the transmission this
> > > morning. I am going to
> > > replace the ground on the battery as it just looks
> > > crappy ...... I have
> > > another battery I charged overnight and will replace
> > > it when I get back from
> > > O"reily....
> > >
> > > Thanks for everyone's help.
> > >
> > > I am running a hot start realy that Bob installed 4
> > > years ago....
> > >
> > > I'll post as soon as I get these things done today.
> > > Trey
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Albarian" <pcalbar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:09 AM
> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Trey,
> > > > When I'm having the sorts of problems you are
> > > mentioning in my splits,
> > > > I've learned over the years that the best, first,
> > > and simplest check is
> > > > the battery.  Typical car parts stores and battery
> > > specialists have worthy
> > > > load testers and test at no charge; they hope to
> > > sell you a battery.  They
> > > > are good about showing you what the test shows, in
> > > my experience, and are
> > > > honest.  The other suggestion I've heard
> > > mentioning is a starter relay.
> > > > The advantage to one of these (especially with a 6
> > > volt system) is that
> > > > the power doesn't need to go so far (back to front
> > > to back) to reach the
> > > > starter.  Since I believe you are running a Bay, I
> > > would start with the
> > > > battery check, and then guess your starter
> > > solonoid is starting to go bad.
> > > > That's my $0.02,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > BlackBerry service provided by Nextel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:04:38
> > > > To:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006
> > > >
> > > > 10.5 is too low.  Probably the battery is failing.
> > >  The ford solenoid
> > > > trick may also resolve the issue but have
> > > thebattery tested.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Trey Jung" <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: 9/16/06 7:25 PM
> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: (HOU) Glen Rose 9/22-24,2006
> > > >
> > > > I'm all for leaving Friday sometime but I just
> > > jumped in it and the bus
> > > > would not start....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last week it did the same thing when I jumped in
> > > it to go the anti-meeting
> > > > Friday night, I got under it and hit the solenoid
> > > as well as the starter
> > > > and even turned the engine by hand with a socket
> > > and it finally turned
> > > > over  and started.
> > > >
> > > > I measure the volts at the battery just now and
> > > they are 10.5 volts. ...a
> > > > little low but:
> > > >
> > > > Synptons:
> > > >
> > > > Radio works, head lights work. Turn the key and
> > > nothing (no sound) ......
> > > > I notice that when I turn the radio on and then I
> > > then the head lights on,
> > > > the radio stops....turn lights over the radio
> > > comes on but still no sounds
> > > > (like the engine trying to turn over)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >Paul Smith
> >www.23window.com/thezone
> >Why do I have to push "1" for English
> >T.C.B.
> >H.B.B.
>
>
>
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