[tcb] Re: Fun with Redux Boxes
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:42:05 -0400
use heat on the housing. Not much. You can also use a penetrating oil like
pbblaster.
Insofar as other options..
Take a bug swing axle tranny, one preferably with a taller freeway flyer
fourth gear. Flip the Ring gear and pinion to the right side of the
transaxle. This isn't hard but you do need to make sure that you have
proper backlash needing a dial indicator. Use the nosecone and hockey stick
from your old transaxle and mount the drive axles and redux boxes to it.
Sorry to hear that you're having problems but this is why I'm shying away
from daily VW aircooled drivers. It's getting harder to find parts and good
people to do the work. That and being on the road all the time I just want
to be able to enjoy them, not fix them all the time.
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:58 PM, <wuzmop@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> That's really what I want to do, Sammy. But the funds are prohibitive right
> now so if I can do something with what I've got I really need to. Plus its
> my daily driver. I'm thinking about throwing the used one in there boxes and
> all while I get the original one rebuilt end to end if I can get this pesky
> bolt out.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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> *From*: Eric Woodall
> *Date*: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:46:00 -0500
>
> *To*: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject*: [tcb] Re: Fun with Redux Boxes
> Yeah, but if your like me, you enjoy doing this kind of work.
> I actually had fun doing my reduction boxes.
> Not bad at all.
>
> sammie smith wrote:
>
> OK, one more comment: If you are going to do a rebuild, do it right and
> rebuild the reboxes at the same time. So, I wouldn't worry about pulling
> the boxes. Just pull the tranny and axles intact as one unit and take it to
> whoever is going to do the rebuild.
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/13/09, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> * wrote:
>
>
> From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Fun with Redux Boxes
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 2:08 PM
>
> I think it's just a "c" clip that holds the outer bearing on.
> Pretty sure if you remove the clip you can get the axle off.
> I did this at my house, no puller there.
> The only time I had to use a puller was after the stub axle was off, and I
> had to get a bearing off, and the new one on.
> Do you have the boxes separated yet?
> I know you have to remove the piece that is connected to the transaxle
> (donut thing, that the axle tube goes through).
> Been too damn long since I've done this, memory foggy.
> Come on Will or Sammie, chime in.
>
> Ok, in this pic:
>
> http://www.woodallweb.com/gallery/main.php/v/album03/Bus_RGB_Rebuild/074_upper_gear_off_lower_axle_still_in.jpg.html
> If you look at the top bearing, after you remove the tube retainer from the
> transaxle (donut thing mentioned earlier), you should be able to hit the box
> with a mallet and it should come off.
> **Here is the original Samba topic from when I did this back in 2005:
>
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136787&highlight=reduction+box+rebuild
>
> wuzmop@xxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wuzmop@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> BUt isn't it the upper bearing where he's using the puller the point where
> I can remove the axle?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Woodall
> <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
> tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 1:40 pm
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Fun with Redux Boxes
>
> Have a look see at these pictures and if this helps you:
> http://www.woodallweb.com/gallery/main.php/v/album03/Bus_RGB_Rebuild/
> FYI, I didn't take these pictures. This is what I used to do the rebuild
> on mine.
>
> wuzmop@xxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wuzmop@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Can you describe it for me as if I'm a bonehead? The things I've looked up
> imply I need a bearing puller but if you can tell me how to get the axles
> off without that it would go along way in solving my dilemma! Sent via
> BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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> *From*: Eric Woodall
> *Date*: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:58:39 -0500
> *To*:
> <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject*: [tcb] Re: Fun with Redux Boxes
> I was able to get my reduction boxes off of the transaxle without a press.
> Do you mean you need a press to rebuild the redution boxes?
> You could remove the axles and the axle tubes and then take your transaxle
> center section that place that Sammie uses in Longview.
> This might work right?
>
> wuzmop@xxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wuzmop@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> As some of you know I blew out 4th gear on the way to the classic. 1967
> with big nut redux boxes. I'm weighing my options as every time I think I'm
> leaning in a specific direction, I run into a challenge. Keeping in mind
> I've had a string of bad luck with our regular car getting wrecked while we
> were in Fburg and some other realted issues have me kinda strapped for now,
> so cost is a huge factor. Time is only a factor because I miss my bus, AND
> IT'S CAMPING SEASON! I know I can search the web, but honestly I'm a bit
> frustrated so I'm hoping you guys can help, and I value your input.
>
> Option A) How much can I expect to pay to have my tranny rebuilt locally,
> stock, if I drag it to them with the redux boxes intact. I don't have the
> pullers to get the bearings off to get the axles off. With Graffeo out of
> the mix, who? And who close to Dallas? I have no truck or big car to move
> this thing with. I can get help, but wouldn't want to ask them to go too
> far.
>
> Option B) I have a small nut drum to drum, I'm told is good, I can slip in
> there for now until my funds get in better shape. It's got a rusted nut in
> the redux housing that so far won't budge. Back to that I have no way to
> remove the housing to stick another on there if I could.
>
> Option C) How much and to what lengths would I have to go to to put in a
> straight axle kit and do away with the boxes? I don't want to do this, and
> if I do, the bus will be down for awhile, especially if it would require any
> more than just the tranny axles and drop spindles.
>
> I'm taking a deep breath now...
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