[tcb] Re: Can a collision move the engine?

  • From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:14:12 -0700 (PDT)

Guess you will just have to take my word for it then.  Over the years (more 
than 50) of messing with VWs I have seen many wrecked VWs, some of which I was 
in when wrecked.  I once hit the rear of a stopped 1960 chevy with a 1961 VW 
going about 60 mph.  It made a cab-over out of the bug and the engine was 
fine.  It did not move.  I once had a GMC service truck hit the rear of my bug 
and he was going about 30mph.  The engine was not moved.  It did bend the crank 
pulley but no other engine damage.  My daughter once skidded out of control in 
a 64 KG to avoid an errant driver and struck a curb going sideways with the 
right rear wheel.  Results:  Bent wheel, bent brake drum, bent rear axle, three 
destroyed tranny mounts, torn off nose cone of the front of the tranny.  No 
damage to the frame horms of the car.  Yes you can move the engine in a 
collision but the first thing to go will be torn tranny mounts.

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Can a collision move the engine?
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 7:59 AM




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can i borrow the bakery bus to experiment :D...i don't have a splitty so i 
don't know what would happen if one ran into a tree...i want all the 
circumstances to be accurate so the bakery bus would be perfect to use.



Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:54:49 -0700
From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: Can a collision move the engine?
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx





It ain't so.  Go experiment.

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Can a collision move the engine?
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 7:31 AM


i would think it could move the motor...15mph is fast when you hit a stationary 
object



From: coocoo@xxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Can a collision move the engine?
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:48:42 -0500


I have done absolutely zero work of maintenance on Murray's mechanicals since 
the tree kissing. When ever I did start him to move him a few yards while doing 
the body work, there was a banging noise that I thought was the tailpipe 
banging against the body metal. When Chuck and I were replacing the electronic 
points with real points, I noticed that the crank pulley nut was loose. It took 
a few turns. I also had to push the cooling tin away from the pulley. When I 
started the engine with Chuck looking at the engine we found that the pulley is 
way wobbly.
 
There was no problem before the crash. I say that I was going, maybe, 15 MPH 
when I hit the tree, because I can't think that I was going much faster, maybe 
I was. 
 
The question is, would a front collision cause the engine to move forward, 
maybe 1/4-1/2 inch? How hard would I have to smack to cause the engine to go 
forward far enough to bend the pulley?
 
Let's all make a wish that the crank wasn't damaged. I'll know tomorrow, maybe.


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